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1 hour ago, Unexpectedflash said:

I actually think we may be number 1 in NIL this year lol. Just reading some boards I saw KU and UNC are around 4 million and they're both regarded as top 5 in NIL. It has to be appealing to whatever coach we may get in the future that they could realistically get whatever team they want with the amount of money we have. I am sure it is frustrating to some of these coaches at lower schools to lose their best players because they cannot pay up. I know a lot of coaches don't like recruiting but Woody has shown here you don't really have to put in effort all year until the portal opens up and just outbid everyone and you can still get a talented team.

This may be an anomaly.

The $6M question is: are the Cooks and Simons (and others) donating to the Woodson Disaster Avoidance Fund, or will they continue to give, regardless of who our coach is? Is this simply an attempt to prop up a failed experiment or is this a sign about the future direction of Indiana basketball NIL?

16 hours ago, Golfman25 said:

Yeah, I agree with that.  But I think politically, they might have to "spin-off" the athletic departments, or at least Football/Basketball.  While it is TV money and not taxpayer money, money is fungible.  It's going to be a tough sell for these kids to get paid professional salaries, from a taxpayer funded educational institution.  They'll be the highest paid people associated with the University, except for a few coaches.  Once the tax paying public wakes up, look out.  

As for NIL, that's a court decision and is here to stay.  Student Athletes will always be able to sell their NIL for money to help the local establishments.  The big money slush funds may go away though.  

As much as I (and probably the majority) want the big money slush fund to go away, it never will. Removing it as a legal/acceptable payment source will only force it back under the table by the Kentuckys, Dukes and Kansases, among others.

Sure, but VA Legislature says "hold my beer."  :) 

2 minutes ago, Class of said:

Somebody else needs to weigh in on this because I'm not 100% confident but from things I've read, I don't believe the school, i.e., coaches can do the actual negotiating.  That's done directly between the athlete and the collective.

So, Woodson didn't even dangle the check! What has he done besides tell us that he's doing his job?

I imagine check was set up as direct deposit.

How much work did Woodson actually do. Who negotiated the million dollar salary with ballo? I am guessing not Woodson. I just want to know if all the sunshine pumpers will admit with this roster he needs to make the Sweet sixeteen? My guess is they will still consider Woodson successful if he goes 21-13. Sent from my SM-A146U using Tapatalk  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

To be fair I watched all the avenger movies and never got into the Thanos references on social media. But Thanos loses in the end. So is he saying Woodson = fired? lol

Since he’s Woodson’s #1 fan, he’d never say that.

20 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

The mob posts BS. They claimed the whole roster would transfer out. Didn’t happen. They claimed nobody wants to come here to play in the system. Obviously not true. Now they move the goalposts to it’s just the money. These guys can all get money elsewhere. Zero credibility.

Why are you quoting me for this response? Not sure what this drivel has to do with what I posted about Woodson winning the off-season with money from a couple of billionaires' wallets...

Let's wait until the actual season starts and see what Mediocre Mike is able to conjure up. We won last off-season and it got us all the way to what, 18-13? Second verse, same as the first.

Ummmmm…. Which coach are they willing to do that for? Most P5 teams have zillionaire donors. That budget still needs to attract talent.

Ballo apparently gave IU a discount over other programs so that he could play for Mike Woodson.

If I was a 7 foot center with NBA aspirations, I would, too. Why would I not want to play for a coach whose entire philosophy and game plan is to feed me in the post? There’s none of that pesky guard play - the guards’ job is to feed the post and let me shine.

FIRE MEDIOCRE MIKE.

Tyme is someone close to the coaching staff. I believe it's a personal friend that isn't very noticeable to people trying to figure out who it is.  
 

18 hours ago, Redcamaro said:

Lunardi has IU as an 8 seed (South) in the 'Way Too Early' predictions for next seasons tournament.

Come back after Woodson has coached the full season with his "recruits" and let me know where IU is seeded.

13 hours ago, Alford Bailey said:

A portion of this fan base spent the last decade complaining because we wouldn’t “play$$$” the game. Now we have fans upset that we are winning the NIL game. “Just throwing money around”!  Yea that is how it works now and I’m glad we are throwing some muscle around.

Don't confuse a couple of billionaires' $2M with "muscle".

Woodson still has to coach this team (and there are still 3 open scholarships). So far, Woodson has not impressed me with his "work" this off-season - I'd expect the same results from 90% of the regulars on BTB with $6M to spend.

We get chastised for posting reality on the pro-Woodson threads... now we got the sunshine pumpers trying to pump in the Fire Woodson thread. 

FIRE MEDIOCRE MIKE WOODSON TODAY.

I think most will wait to see them on the court before victory is declared but he should not be going 10-10 in the big ten with he group he will have. That would be a massive underachivement. 
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9 minutes ago, IUc2016 said:

I don't think it has anything to do with loving NIL or not. It was bizarre that they could not make money off their OWN NAMES. That doesn't make them professional or amateur which was always a silly argument, it just makes them like everyone else. 

But "this" isn't "that". Doing personal appearances or sponsorship deals is one thing. There is nothing about that with the NIL deal where schools are paying players $1M to attend their school and play a sport in exchange for that money. What we now have is professional athletes disguised as amateurs.

At least the pro sports leagues have some sort of salary cap in an attempt to bring parity. There is no such "cap" on NIL spending, so it's truly a free-for-all. And if the NCAA (or some other authority) were to implement a cap, it would just return us to the days of under-the-table payments. 

Sadly, it is what it is and it is completely out of control.

7 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

You make some good points about taking some load off of Trey. Hopefully that helps. Hopefully, he can get back to working out this summer. Saw him & Leal yesterday and he's still on crutches. 

It was a meniscus tear, right? Rehab is typically 4-6 weeks of PT after surgery. To still be on crutches raises a bit of concern.

https://www.idsnews.com/article/2024/04/whitten-rebuked-iu-faculty-vote-no-confidence-in-whitten-shrivastav-docherty

1 hour ago, IndianaSconnie90 said:

If this team weren't coached by Woodson I'd actually be excited about this pickup. Unfortunately, we're stuck with what looks to be a very familiar roster and offensive gameplan

Remember what Bob Knight said about Dale Brown?

(“It didn’t look good,” Knight said. “In fact, my assistants had just about given up, and so had I. Then I looked down toward the other bench, and I saw Dale Brown standing there. I knew then that we had a chance.” )

That's exactly how I feel about Mediocre Mike Woodson. The Cooks and Simons can buy him all of the talent in the world, but Woodson will still screw it up. He can't coach his way out of the proverbial paper bag.

1 minute ago, theriverpilot said:

I'm happy that IU is finally able to let its $$$ do some talking.

They tried last year. Got Ware. Missed on every guard and/or shooter they went after. New year, new outcome.

13 minutes ago, cthomas said:

As much as I hate the whole process, portal season progresses at a much faster pace than high school recruiting.

The shorter cycle and lots of other people's money is how MW gets it done.

Just read that the Cooks and Simons have bought Bello for Woodson. Let's see what he can do with him... still have my doubts.

12 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Because I don’t want the head coach of my favorite basketball team to be someone who gives piss poor effort and treats other people, including other people with IU athletics, like they’re beneath him. I want a coach I want to root for. That’s really not Mike Woodson. 

I wish I could like this way more than one time. THIS IS SPOT ON. Woodson is all show and no go, as they say.

He's definitely not a team player if the stories are true - not interacting with other sports programs, refusing to talk to other teams when the coaches ask him to, his distain for Teri Moren and the women's program ... and those stories came from a source that I trust implicitly.

Just now, ebridges24 said:

Tough to go through life holding grudges, it can make you a miserable person.

Or reveal that you already are one.