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Hoosierfan2017

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  1. Hoosierfan2017

    Coronavirus and Sports Only - PLEASE and THANK YOU

    Do you mean in the event they play in the spring instead? I just really can’t see spring football working. I’ll be shocked if anyone is playing then. I think it’s either fall or nothing.
  2. Hoosierfan2017

    Coronavirus and Sports Only - PLEASE and THANK YOU

    This is a game changer for sports. Cheap, fast saliva tests just got the ok from the FDA. It's hard to see the other conferences not going forward with their seasons at this point. Maybe the Big 10 will reconsider? Staying canceled will be a colossal failure if other conferences pull their seasons off. https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/512243-fda-approves-saliva-based-coronavirus-test
  3. Hoosierfan2017

    Coronavirus and Sports Only - PLEASE and THANK YOU

    Sure his son is an adult and can make his own decisions, but the optics would be terrible if his son plays college football this season after he shutdown football for the Big 10 because it wasn't 'safe.' Hundreds of young men don't get to play this fall because of Kevin Warren, but Kevin Warren's own son gets to play? It would be a really bad look.
  4. Hoosierfan2017

    Coronavirus and Sports Only - PLEASE and THANK YOU

    Big 12 is moving forward with a season. This is going to kill the Big 10 in recruiting if they pull it off.
  5. Hoosierfan2017

    Coronavirus and Sports Only - PLEASE and THANK YOU

    Of course not. Football is the fall sport that people care about. It’s the sport that fills 80k stadiums across the country.
  6. Hoosierfan2017

    Coronavirus and Sports Only - PLEASE and THANK YOU

    Complete and utter crap.
  7. Hoosierfan2017

    Coronavirus and Sports Only - PLEASE and THANK YOU

    I think anyone who believes they're thinking about canceling because of player safety is fooling themselves. I mean, think about the game of football. It's a violent sport that we know causes CTE. Players can become paralyzed or die on the field. Every year they press forward with a new season. But a virus that poses a very small danger to college athletes is enough to cancel the season? I'm not buying it for a second. They're concerned about the potential liability, but they're not concerned about player safety, imo.
  8. Hoosierfan2017

    Coronavirus and Sports Only - PLEASE and THANK YOU

    Maybe the backlash made them reconsider? We can only hope. https://twitter.com/Graham_Couch/status/1292875032658665474?s=20
  9. Hoosierfan2017

    Coronavirus and Sports Only - PLEASE and THANK YOU

    I can only imagine how happy McRobbie was to vote to cancel the football season.
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    Coronavirus and Sports Only - PLEASE and THANK YOU

    Trevor Lawrence could become a multi-millionaire tomorrow if they canceled the season yet he’s one of the most outspoken players in favor of playing. That says a lot. The hashtag #WeWantToPlay on Twitter is full of football players saying they understand the risks and want to play. Football is these players’ lives. Most of them will never play after college. They want to play while they still can. And it’s not like covid disappears if they cancel the season. They’re still at-risk of getting it. Like you said, they’re less safe if they cancel the season. Canceling the season would be a disastrous decision, which is why I fully expect them to make it.
  11. Hoosierfan2017

    Coronavirus and Its Impact

    I’m not disputing your numbers. Yes, if you take the number of deaths and divide by the number of cases, you get 3.28%. I do not agree with you that that’s the best way to estimate the death rate. The fact that the rate went from 5.9% in May to 3.2% now gives credence to my argument, imo. As we expanded our testing capabilities, that death rate dropped. The death rate in May was so high because of so many undetected cases. We are getting better at detecting cases, so the rate has dropped. However, we still aren’t doing nearly enough tests. People on here have complained about testing difficulties. There are still a whole lot of undetected covid cases. The public health officials take Covid deaths that aren’t detected into consideration when estimating the death rates, and they estimate it to be much lower than 3.2%. Sure, the math is easy. But it’s the wrong math to be doing to find the true death rate, imo. Dividing confirmed deaths by confirmed cases doesn’t give an accurate death rate given the testing issues in this country and the up to 50% of infected people who are asymptomatic.
  12. Hoosierfan2017

    Coronavirus and Its Impact

    One poster said “the math is easy” arguing against the poster who said it has a 99.6% survival rate. I disagreed with that poster, so I responded and explained why. Sorry that you don’t think the coronavirus thread is the appropriate thread to discuss the coronavirus death rate. No one’s forcing you to read it.
  13. Hoosierfan2017

    Coronavirus and Its Impact

    The CDC isn't estimating a death rate anywhere close to 3.2%. "The document includes five scenarios. The first four are varying estimates of the disease's severity, from low to high, while the fifth represents the "current best estimate." The range of estimates put the fatality rate for those showing symptoms between 0.2%-1%, with a "best estimate" of 0.4%. It also places the number of asymptomatic cases between 20%-50%, with a "best estimate" of 35%. By combining the two estimates, the estimated overall fatality rate of those infected with the virus – with and without symptoms – would be 0.26%. According to NPR, the CDC has revised the estimate downward from its estimate in mid-April. Internal versions of the CDC scenario documents acquired by the Center for Public Integrity show that on April 14, the CDC had estimated a 0.33% fatality rate. That was up from a March 31 estimate of 0.16%." Even those who believe the CDC's estimate is too low do not have it close to 3.2%. "Harvard University epidemiologist Marc Lipsitch told the "80,000 Hours" podcast in a May 18 episode that he believes the fatality rate is "clearly above 0.2% and probably above 0.4%," likely lying somewhere between 0.2%-1.5%." "Infectious diseases physician and epidemiologist Dr. Michael Calderwood told USA TODAY that he also believes the rate should be around 0.5%. He pointed to a May 14 article in the Journal of the American Medical Association that looked at the Diamond Princess Cruise Ship outbreak and found the death rate, adjusted for age, was around that number." https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/06/05/fact-check-cdc-estimates-covid-19-death-rate-0-26/5269331002/
  14. Hoosierfan2017

    Coronavirus and Its Impact

    The math is not at all simple to do because we have absolutely no idea how many cases we have had in the United States. The mortality rate is 3.2% if you simply divide deaths by confirmed cases, but as we know there are many more cases than the official total.
  15. Hoosierfan2017

    IU Football Off-Season

    If Sam Story says we’re doing football in the spring that’s pretty good confirmation we’ll be playing in the fall.
  16. Hoosierfan2017

    Coronavirus and Sports Only - PLEASE and THANK YOU

    It’s nice to have basketball back. I hope the bubble works and the nfl finds a way to have a season. Americans need sports right now.
  17. Hoosierfan2017

    (2020) SF Jordan Geronimo to Indiana

    Those kind of pictures usually seem to largely be the product of lighting and a pre-picture pump, but those look like legitimate gains. Especially in the legs.
  18. Hoosierfan2017

    Coronavirus and Its Impact

    I would probably feel better about it if it was done on the local level. From the communities I've lived in before, it seems like local officials are much more in tune with their communities. If they screw up and misuse the data, they can't hide out in DC away from their constituents. And in general I think local officials are more likely to care about the betterment of their communities since they're living, shopping, eating, etc. there year round. I don't know my privacy rights in cyberspace, but I assume they're not very good. I guess the thing for me is that I figure these companies have so many users that they're not going to care much about me specifically. I'm just one of their hundreds of millions of users. And if I'm really concerned about it, I can just not use their app or service. But if the government required us to download such an app, they'd probably have people consistently tracking everyone. I'm not sure if I'd be willing to download it even if it'd cut infections/deaths to a fraction of what they'd otherwise be.
  19. Hoosierfan2017

    Coronavirus and Its Impact

    With cell phones and other technologies I'm not sure how much merit my issues with it have, but I would be very against something like this. We see a lot of jokes about masks being an infringement on 'muh freedumbs,' and I agree a lot of it is silly, but I think such an app actually would be a major invasion of privacy and infringement on freedoms. I would be very uncomfortable with some entity having access to my health, physical location, and human contacts. It's too dystopian for me. I more than likely wouldn't comply.
  20. Hoosierfan2017

    Coronavirus and Its Impact

    Cuomo is in a room full of people wearing masks. He doesn't have one anywhere in sight. It seems very unlikely that he'd 'forget' in that situation. Covid doesn't care if someone is choosing not to wear a mask or just forgot to wear one. It does its thing either way. He's around hugging up on people while maskless. If he is asymptomatic he just put everyone in that room at risk. Your talks of "nuance" and "people make mistakes" didn't start until the maskless people changed from "people who think it infringes their freedoms" to well-regarded government officials. I wonder why...
  21. Hoosierfan2017

    Coronavirus and Its Impact

    A week ago you were saying that by not wearing a mask or social distancing, someone is saying "it's my time to kill." Now that Fauci is shown not wearing a mask or social distancing, he's "just human" and "made a mistake." And hey, I agree that people make maktakes. Masks suck. They are uncomfortable. Sometimes you take a break from it for a bit. Sometimes you forget your mask. But when you're a high-ranking official who has been on people about masks for months, it's a bad look when you're caught slipping.
  22. Hoosierfan2017

    Coronavirus and Its Impact

    This was from a few days ago in Georgia (sorry for the Twitter commentary, couldnt find the video without it). I don't know how tight this indoor space was, but he's way closer than 6'. I honestly don't know what he was thinking. I'm not a big mask guy and I'm not worried about getting the virus, but I still wouldn't want to be hugging all up on people I don't really know right now.
  23. Hoosierfan2017

    Coronavirus and Its Impact

    In Andrew Cuomo's case I think he's drunk off the newfound power he has and has no intention of giving it up. New York bars can't serve alcohol without food. But the food has to "substantive" enough. Chicken wings, not substantive. Sandwiches, substantive. I don't know about you, but wings are much more substantive than sandwiches in most cases, and wings are typical bar food. I don't know why they're pushing masks so much. If they thought they worked as well as they tell us they do, they wouldn't be going around maskless. Ether that, or they're psychopathic murderers who don't care about anyone around them (or at least that's how anti-maskers are usually described). Is there any good explanation for why some of the most avid pro-mask officials take them off when they think the cameras aren't around?
  24. Hoosierfan2017

    Coronavirus and Its Impact

    I said nothing about partisan bias or political parties. Watch what these 'leaders' do when they think the cameras are off and you find out what they really think. Fauci, Cuomo, Holcomb. LA's mayor was maskless in the middle of a protest. NYC's mayor was shouting while maskless at a protest. Either they think masks aren't as effective as they tell us commoners that they are, or they do think they're effective but choose not to live by the same rules they're telling us to live by.
  25. Hoosierfan2017

    Coronavirus and Its Impact

    Yesterday was Dr. Fauci's time to kill, apparently. Andrew Cuomo's too.(though he got a head start with his nursing home policies)
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