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  1. On 4/19/2021 at 11:03 PM, Hoosierfan2017 said:

    Takes FIVE years to learn how to deliver fries in Archie's system 

    I fixed it for you.  We didn't see anything delivered during the 4 years he was here, so the length of time HAS to be longer.  

  2. 14 hours ago, brumdog45 said:

    Small world.....I was a freshman in college when IU won the championship and when I went outside to celebrate, some drunk guy knocked me over and jumped into Showalter Fountain.


    If you hadn't clarified your statement I was going to say I'm sorry.  I didn't steal the fish, but I was one of those drunk hooligans in and around the fountain down Kirkwood Ave that night.  

  3. 38 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

    I guess I will try to explain why I think having an IU guy is the right thing at this time.  First I am not saying this to condemn anyone or blame anyone who might not understand this.  I know people who did not grow up in Indiana or is a lot younger than did not see what IU meant when RMK was the coach.  I grew up in in Central Indiana in the late 70's and 80's which meant watching IU on our local channel 4 in Indy.  Since it was a locally owned TV station it produced its own game which meant IU announcers.  Those announcers were former players in John Laskowski and later Ted Kitchell.  Back then they played games on Thursday night and Saturday and it was easy to keep up with the schedule.  You know when you had to find your 2 and half hours time to watch the game plus the pre game show with RMK.  RMK would have about a 12 minute segment to explain what the team was going to do against this opponent and it taught IU fans the game.  Not to mention Martha the Mop Lady and the Farm Bureau Insurance commercials.

    All of this made IU like your own family and would do anything to support that family  I know when you are younger that everything seems more important everything was such a big deal.  This is what IU basketball felt like to me and that I felt part of it.  You also always saw former players at the game and they were welcome back anytime they wanted.

    After RMK was let go I was all for letting someone else come in and try to bring IU back to where it was use to be.  We brought in outside guys who had proven to win at the level they were at.  They made deep runs in the tournament so they seemed like great hires but there was always something missing to them.  We have done this for 20 years and it never totally panned out and here we are 20 years later trying to get IU back to what we use to be.  Everyone say they want IU back to what it once was and to me it is time to bring back a guy who was part of what IU use to be.

    The one thing that throws a wrench into your entire train of thought, is that RMK was not an IU guy.  Until he was....  

    The whole debacle that has been IU basketball for 20 years now, is not that RMK left.  It was the way he was let go.  If IU, and RMK, had handled the situation better we probably would have been closer to UNC.  They had one failure after Dean left.  The person following an icon is probably not going to succeed.  

    I would say it is 50-50 at best that Woodson succeeds.  I truly hope he does, but it will not have much to do with him being an IU player at one time.  

    I am in the same fan boat as you.  Started to know what basketball was in the early 70's.  Graduated IU in 87.  

  4. 35 minutes ago, Banksyrules said:

    Ugh through the poll it looks no one thinks this is a home run.   I would’ve been OK with this if we did our due diligence with other coaches.  This choice feels myopic. 

    I am confident that IU did their due diligence with other coaches.  I think this wound up being the best option available.  There were way to many days of silence for this to be even option B or C on the wishlist.  


  5. 1 minute ago, Me So Hornsby said:


    Boy if you don’t think the way jerseys look and how cool kids will look in them have any effect on recruits I don’t know what to tell you. The look matters. Maybe not the most important thing, but it matters

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    Find ONE example of a kid that chose a University based on the looks of the uniform.  

    Changing the cut of the uniform would not do nearly as much for recruiting as being able to add another star on the back of the pants. 

    Just like every other program the uniforms get re done every couple of years.  They are probably due for a refresh soon anyway.  


  6. 6 minutes ago, Me So Hornsby said:


    I know that our facilities are extreme nice, but as others have said they are not in the top 5 or even top 10 in the country. Don’t you think that we should be in that top 10 range? We are one of the premier basketball programs. Shouldn’t we act like one?

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    No, because those facilities rankings ebb and flow.  You build them when you need to build them, not just to keep up.  Build them then update as needed.  

  7. 8 minutes ago, southernindianahoosier2 said:

    but as an 16-18 year old. The cut of our uniforms isn’t what kids want.  


     Please find me one kid that went to college based on the cut of their uniform.  Young men playing basketball are not doing so to major in fashion design.  Are there some kinds in the past that went to a school because it was Nike, or Adidas?  Sure.  Isn't that what a good portion of the FBI investigation is about?  


  8. I've now had the chance to get a good night's sleep after learning of the hire.  I am still very middle of the road.  

    I read a take by Osterman in the Star, that I really find myself agreeing with.  I think what I find the most frustrating is that IU couldn't even hire a coach that is able to handle the job by himself.  They had to go out and hire a second coach to coach the coach.  I guess I AM, like my kids say, the grumpy old man living in the past.  DARN, I thought that would hold off at least until 60.  

    I hope this works, I hope I can go back to being excited about IU BB.  All I can do now is wait and see the results.

  9. As a middle school kid, I shot baskets in the driveway pretending to play with Woodson.  I can appreciate what he means to IU's history.  I welcome him back to IU, and wish him a lot of success,

    That being said this whole thing perplexes me.  If I were going after a former player with NBA experience I liked a Keith Smart hire better, but that is only a matter of degree.  I think this goes to show you that IU is no longer a top tier destination.  If Woodson was choice A, B, or C.  I think this deal would have been done a while ago.  

    As someone who has talked about how my apathy to this program has grown over the last 5 or 6 years, for me this doesn't do anything at all to build excitement.  The only thing I am excited about in regards to college BB now, is hoping without much hope that someone is going to knock off Gonzaga. 

  10. 2 minutes ago, tortex28 said:

    just goes to show you how a lot of these people on these boards who claim to be insiders are not. They just make good guesses sometimes and fool a lot of people.

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    That has always been the case.  The real insiders don't post on boards like this.  It would cost them way too much.  I am sure there are some that post that "know" some people, but even then the knowledge is limited. 

  11. 4 minutes ago, RatpigHoosier said:

    To this point SD has kept an airtight lid on the search. Why would a leak come out at this point? I’m ok with Woodson but I find it really hard to believe that this is legit. I really don’t think any of the National pundits know wtf they are talking about but rather are trying to rile us up for their own recognition. Keep throwing names against the wall and eventually one will stick and they’ll call themselves experts for getting it right. Seems ridiculous to me.

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    The Star is reporting it as fact.  I tend to think this one is real.  

  12. 4 minutes ago, madmax said:

    Beilein and Fife or Lewis is my bet....

    Do not see any way there is a twofer.   It doesn't work very often in the business world,  I don't see it working at all in college athletics. To many coaches get fired and do not leave on their own accord.  If Beilein tanks, then Fife would tank as well.  If Beilein stays healthy and succeeds, then Fife gets pissed off when Beilein doesn't leave.  I don't see any winning scenarios here.  

  13. 6 minutes ago, jumpshot53 said:

    The reason I like the Beilien hire is to avoid the coaching carousel.

    I agree with most of what you say except this. I just think hiring Beilein insures that we will be looking for a coach sooner rather than later.  If he were 60, he would be right at the top of my list.  

  14. 15 minutes ago, jumpshot53 said:

    BTW, about his age. People can be productive way past 68,  look at Sister Jean.  I'm not saying she is productive now at 101,  but , she was probably doing well into her 90's.  I know many people still doing quite well at almost 80.  Beilien's age isn't really a factor.

    There is a big difference between being productive, and being able to handle the rigors of a college BB season.  A coach gets what 4 - 6 weeks off per year?  Sure the season is only 7 months long, but it is a brutal 7 months.  Not to mention the stress and headaches of the off season.  

    My Dad was a practicing physician until he retired at age 82.  We had lots of talks over the years, and was the first to admit that his productivity started going down about age 60.  When he retired he could still handle seeing 30-40 patients a day, but he was a small town doctor.  It was the working all day, then getting the phone calls at 2:00 am that finally got to him.  Well that and having to do everything on a computer.  :)

    I think we can all agree that we want more than productive.  Crean was productive,  Miller was productive.  That didn't help us much.  The only concern I have with Beilein is that we know we will be doing another coaching sooner rather than later, and I think we can all agree that a coaching carousel is not a good thing. 

  15. 1 minute ago, BGleas said:

    In 2021 if you're running a program that wins at a consistently high level, I just assume you're either cheating (if we can even call it that anymore since the NCAA doesn't care and there are no consequences) or heavily in the gray area. And yes, that includes Villanova, UVA, MSU, etc. 

    I thought I was jaded.  If I had your belief.  I don't know if I could watch college sports ever again.  

  16. 2 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

    Your worldview completely ignores the realities of big-time college basketball in the 21st century. More power to ya if you’re fine with IU being a bad basketball program, but I’m not. We don’t let our coaches recruit in the gray area. But then we also don’t hire good coaches because good coaches recruit in the gray area. So, we hire inferior coaches, handicap their recruiting, and then expect them to compete for conference and national championships. It’s comical, really. The holier than thou attitude is what has gotten us 4 tournament appearances in the past 13 seasons. 

    If that is the reality, then IU should get rid of Basketball.  

  17. 1 hour ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

    Of course I’m mad at IU. Other programs consistently cheat their butts off and reap the rewards of it. We do things the “right” way, miss the tournament more often than we make it, and regularly get clowned by the media. IU would rather consider a guy who has made 2 tournaments in 17 seasons than the guy who has his 1 seed in the sweet 16 and has interest in the job. It’s a joke. IU makes it loud and clear that a good basketball program isn’t its top priority, which is frustrating as hell to me. All I want is for IU to be a great program again, but the administration refuses to let it happen.

    I am so happy that IU would rather lose and do things the right way, than cheat and win.  If the only way IU can have a good basketball team is to hire a coach that is going to cheat and live and in the Grey area; I hope they disband basketball all together,  The University is much bigger than any sports program.  Do it right or don't do it at all.  

  18. 3 hours ago, iubb said:

    Hey. I live in CA, but want to retire to Hawaii when I retire. My only concern is how I order from Amazon. Since by the time I retire Physical stores will no longer exist. So all ordering will be online



    It’s just going to be really weird waking up at 8 and half the US is already More than halfway done with their day.



    Hey, the time zone differences are not all bad.  The weird thing for me is calling my family and getting them out of bed, but it is late afternoon or evening for me.

    If you are a fan of live sports you have to make a lot of changes.  In my case, I record a lot of games and watch after the fact, for me it usually isn't that bad, because after the games everyone in the US goes to bed.  In your case you would just have to wake up very early in the morning.