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This all feels like we’re going to need more than $6m. 

1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

RJ Davis

What? Really? That seems like it would be seismic. 

3 hours ago, Alford Bailey said:

Never thought we were getting Hickman and not that upset we didn’t 

I’m with you here. Never got excited when watching his film. Conwell would be a much better get but that seems like it’s a pipe dream. 

5 hours ago, Papacap said:

Liam knew the portal haul IU would get so had to go elsewhere…….

This sounds like “she doesn’t like the big ones bc they hurt.”……. But yeah. You’re probably right. 

6 hours ago, Banksyrules said:

For the first time in 40 years we actually have good management that won't fall for that trick. Cmon guys you all secretly want  OG Anunoby to get his well deserved ring.... 

Lifelong Pacers fan here. I don’t care if the entire 2013 Indiana Hoosiers roster played for the Knicks….. I’d have to root for them to lose. 

1 hour ago, AH1971 said:

In the last 3 years, 5 of the top 7 programs of all-time in this sport by my estimation have been open.

1. North Carolina—-hired Hubert Davis, no college HC experience 

2. Duke—-hired Jon Scheyer, no college head coaching experience

3. Kentucky——hired Mark Pope, coached at Utah Valley and BYU, zero tournament wins

4. Indiana——hired Mike Woodson, no college head coaching experience

5. Louisville x2——Kenny Payne no college head coaching experience and Pat Kelsey, coached at Winthrop and College of Charleston, zero tournament wins

Throw in Arizona whom I consider a top 10 program that hired Tommy Lloyd (no head coaching experience) as well as Syracuse hiring Adrian Autry (no head coaching experience). Ponder that, it’s a crapshoot.

Someone has to find lightning in a bottle with one of these lower profile guys. Let’s hope it’s not Michigan. 

7 hours ago, Adillac said:

We are handing out hundreds of thousands of dollars to players and I'd just hope we would try for someone who shoots better than 27% from 3pt, seeing as how we were essentially the worst 3pt shooting team in the country last year. But then again, Woody is our coach so it shouldn't be surprising. 

He shot poorly on guarded 3’s but actually shot over 40% on unguarded 3’s. He has the potential to shoot it from deep. Can get better. Really good lead guard. Pair him with Conwell and we're cooking. Still think Mgbako playing the 3 is a mistake. Karaban from UConn basically the same player and UConn plays him at the 4. 

6 hours ago, Kentuckysucks said:

Tracy Stevens agrees with this Tweet.

 

 

Tracy’s going to parlay a UK negotiation into Brad being commissioner of the NBA. 

11 hours ago, Chris007 said:

To point 2 Banks, Gunn did not improve but Reneau did. Is that because of the staff or is that because the individual player put in the time to get better?

It’s really on the player. The staff and program need to have the resources available to players who are willing to put in the work. Victor Oladipo often was in the gym well before and after the rest of his teammates. Some guys do the bare minimum and do not take advantage of the resources available. All of the players have keys to Cook Hall 24/7. 
 

I don’t believe it’s the coaches responsibility to develop the players skill. Obviously he can help with matters but it’s his responsibility to establish a culture that extra work is required. You have to earn your role every single day. Then scout, identify, and recruit players that fit that program culture. 
 

Dan Hurley is the best at this in cbb right now and it shows. Guy has an absolute machine going right now and I don’t see it stopping unless an NBA team steals him away. 

1 hour ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

 

Yeah, when you want Stevens, Hurley, Donovan it seems like a downgrade. But he can recruit. He’s a bit slimy and doesn’t care about it. He’ll probably cook at UK. Seems like an almost perfect fit.

Sidenote, If UK is willing to spend 11 mill a year with a 5-8 mill NIL, like the Hurley offer suggests, IU needs to get their crap in order.


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Wayne…. We are way past getting our crap in order. We are so far behind. We have $5m-$6m in NIL, tons of playing time, and a total of 6 roster spots. We’ve not landed a single portal prospect yet. We have so much ground to make up, on so many levels. 
 

the window of opportunity to get back in the conversation with the other blueblood’s is closed. We aren’t even the flagship program in our state anymore. Money is not going to fix our problems. So many programs have the money to match and so much more to offer. 
 

Indiana Men’s Basketball will never get their **** together. I’ve never been more sure of anything in my life. 

11 minutes ago, monskisprodigy said:

I'd be interested in a list pulled together based on active coaches rankings of the top jobs...but Brad Crawford, College Football Analyst from 247 sports, list? Meh...not sure I would say this list represents the 'national perception' of tops jobs in college hoops. Looks more like his personal ranking based on what he thinks about programs current "resources, brand appeal, fan support and those in immediate position to be successful as a perennial contender". 

Here's the article. 

https://247sports.com/longformarticle/arkansas-landing-john-calipari-disrupts-college-basketballs-top-10-job-rankings-230101384/#2402675

 

I used to have that same belief. But this is national sentiment amongst the majority of cbb and I’d assume that’s the case with coaches, since we cannot seem to attract top tier coaching talent. 

Whether you agree with this or not, this is what the IU administrations have done to this program. This is national perception and it’s infuriating. 

I kept getting told that I needed to root for the B1G to win a championship. Just couldn’t do it. Sadly, this is the highlight of our season. Seeing Purdue get SO CLOSE to a banner and getting their hearts ripped out… beautiful. 

3 hours ago, steubenhoosier said:

If there are guys who want to visit on 4/20, is that a bad sign?

Depends… what’s their shooting percentage from 3? 

Edey is an animal. 

Maybe it’s my FOMO here but this feels like a bad situation for IU. This will set off a chain reaction of coaching changes that will negatively impact the quality of coach we will be able to get, if we do indeed make a move after next season. Basically all candidates we would have had easier access to  will have new jobs with much higher buyouts. Feels like college basketball is rapidly evolving into something that we will have no part in. 

12 hours ago, IH8PU said:

ALL AD's have a list of coaches in every sport. You may not like Dolson but he isn't stupid.

I’m not calling him stupid. I’m calling him neutered. I don’t believe for one second that he has any authorization to make changes. Also, according to some on here, he likely had a list of 3. One went to Michigan, the other wasn’t interested, and the one that was, we passed over, in favor of Mike Woodson. I doubt Dolson has a list at this moment. 

On 4/5/2024 at 4:46 PM, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I’m on board. I’d love to see Dolson’s big board of coaches.

I think he’s praying Woodson can go 3 more and find some success, but he better have his big board ready in case this season turns cluster.

I’ve said this before, but in some ways I love Woodys moxy. I mean, that heat was hot. He could of cowered and we all would have rejoiced. But he bet on himself to come back into the blazing kitchen and give it a go. I honestly hope it all ends miraculously. It would be best.




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I want to believe the guys who say Dolson has a list but I don’t. I have zero confidence in leadership to do anything that makes sense. Mainly bc they’ve made head scratching decisions, one after the other, for decades now. Dolson is a whipping boy. 

41 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

I very much prefer Woody.

Not I, sir. I’d take Cal in a heartbeat. 

5 hours ago, Chris007 said:

You ok with giving him 700K? That’s the asking price. Him, MR, MM all together in the starting lineup 

Why are they wasting time with him then? 

On 3/30/2024 at 6:06 PM, Stuhoo said:

Gallo should not be our pg.

He should be the sixth man that still plays 25-30 mpg at positions 1-3 and is on the court at the end of the game.

THIS

On 4/2/2024 at 7:31 AM, str8baller said:

If I had to guess... RMK was such a tour de force in personality by the 90s that he subsumed almost complete control of the basketball program. IU probably had very little capable talent in the AD anyways at that time. So when he was abruptly canned there was very little institutional knowledge left in the basketball dept. The administrations desire to distance itself from all things Knight probably further exacerbated the problem.  

 

Now we seem to be in the opposite tailspin having reconciled with Knight: a couple of his long time guys are given preference despite not having accomplished anything at IU in 40 years. 

I made a post about it in another thread a while ago, but I think the whole thing should just be torn down to the studs. Fire everyone,  hire the best AD in the country,  and give him complete and total control to rebuild. 

I agree. If this were any other organization, sports or otherwise, it would be nuked then rebuilt with a stronger foundation. This will never happen though. The program is profitable and there is little to no incentive to change the power structure. It’s undeniable, at this point, that winning isn’t as high a priority as they’ve led us to believe. I have ZERO faith that this will ever get turned around in my lifetime…. I’m only 38. 
 

I’ll be interested to see what happens with Buckner as chair. 

5 hours ago, reconmkd said:

https://www.on3.com/teams/kentucky-wildcats/news/tom-crean-kentucky-indiana-series-it-should-have-never-gone-away/

I hate our admin so much. They’re awful. 

On 4/2/2024 at 12:14 PM, Home Jersey said:

Yes, in interviews when he was hired at Wagner, Rhode Island, and UConn, he's made references to having to convince his wife to let him take the job, because she does not like change and wants to be close to her family in Jersey City, where they are both from. I think Rhode Island at 3.5 hours was about as far as she'd ever be willing to go. UConn feels like a perfect fit for Hurley when you combine that with the fact that basketball is king there... he's already got it rolling and it's fueled by a regional recruiting pipeline he's built over a lifetime. 

I do not think there is any feasible amount of money that would make Danny Hurley jump right now. You never know... but the thing is, the Hurley family has shown time and time again that they're not necessarily motivated by money. Bob SR. could have left plenty of times over the years... a lot of that loyalty mindset exists in Danny... he coached HS for about 10 years and only made the jump to college because his wife essentially gave him the green light since she could see the need for competition burning within him, lol. He said Coach K told him in his final year at URI that he had to make a move now and he said that's what prompted him to being open to a change I believe. 

The only way I could see it making sense for him is if UConn becomes so diminished in conference re-alignments that he feels he can no longer be competitive on a national level (I don't see that happening personally). Even then, I think Hurley is the kind who would take pride in staying put and "beating the odds" despite conference challenges. I also think from an ego perspective, he'd love to be the indisputable top dog over Calhoun, but that's entirely my own speculation... he's just a maniac like that and I think he fits UConn like a glove. 

He does fit UConn …. As Stevens fits IU like a glove and Cal fits Kentucky. Fit matters. I’m not even convinced Hurley could win at IU like he does at UConn. 

4 hours ago, str8baller said:

I’d love to have Conwell. I think he’d fit in nicely at the B1G level.  He’s about everything we need out of a guard other than a pure pg/dynamic ballhandler type.   
 

I would like him more than someone like Johnell Davis won in not as high on. 

Conwell needs to show he can play the pg position more, to improve his nba prospects. Whatever it takes to get him, we need to do it.