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Sucks to be an IU fan right now for sure.
But I have no idea how someone could watch Purdue play this year and call it beautiful. Zach Edey shooting 25 free throws/game is a lot of things… but beautiful? Yeah idk about that. 

Yep, I am a huge bart torvik fan. I love kenpom, but you gotta pay for the same level of info Bartholomew gives you for free. 

I’m really confused by your takes. You laugh at everyone who is excited about this “portal haul” yet you have the highest expectations of anyone? and don’t give me this, I want to be the best crap, it’s nonsense.
You are telling us you’re here to temper expectations, yet also saying we should be better than we have been in 25 years. so why are you speaking out of both sides of your mouth? Or do you not realize you are doing that? 

Stop losing to Penn State, Northwestern, Rutgers, and Nebraska. 1-7 this year against those programs was unacceptable.
I know Nebraska and Northwestern were NCAA teams, but going 0-3 against them and not being competitive is down right BS.

I’m really confused by your takes. You laugh at everyone who is excited about this “portal haul” yet you have the highest expectations of anyone? and don’t give me this, I want to be the best crap, it’s nonsense.
You are telling us you’re here to temper expectations, yet also saying we should be better than we have been in 25 years. so why are you speaking out of both sides of your mouth? Or do you not realize you are doing that? 

Wow. I check in after a day and this is the first thing I see. Things have...changed.

No COVID year for Coleman Hawkins.  

Sounds like Malone is down to Colorado or Notre Dame according to Rabjohns 

Anyone know if this fella was able to survive?  I worry about every once in awhile but every time he pops up he still seems to be hanging on. I really feel like I should click on it to help him in some way but I am to eager to see if someone committed so I hit the X too quickly.  If anyone knows how he is doing let us know. 

I’ve thought about this thread and I kind of go back and forth. On one hand, I probably shouldn’t expect much because of woody and all the things you mention. Otoh, I see a top 10-15ish roster and think maybe we should expect that.  
 
After 25 lackluster years I think I’ve come to the following sad reality about IU basketball: I expect very little to nothing from this program. 

Yep, I am a huge bart torvik fan. I love kenpom, but you gotta pay for the same level of info Bartholomew gives you for free. 

In other words, if Goode signs on, we’ve got one back up spot to fill and tons and tons of options that might fit.

This program has been down for 25 years not sure how much further down they got to go for people to realize that.  Doesn’t matter how much money is spent nothing is guaranteed.  The program you are invested in is right now a middle of the pack B1G team trying to gain momentum to try and get back to where they once were.  People talking about bar being low with 23 wins however past History tells you that the last  time IU won over 23 games was 2014-15.  Reality stinks but that’s where this program is right now no matter how much money is being spent 

Jeez dude is part of that money coming out of your paycheck or something? 

I have enjoyed these two putting out videos about the portal, and the big ten in particular. One is a Michigan fan who fears Dusty will leave Michigan for IU one day. The other is a MSU fan who is tired of Izzo. 
I shared this video because it is about Luke Goode, but the joke near the end about Woody was pretty funny, especially for you dumpers :)

Stop losing to Penn State, Northwestern, Rutgers, and Nebraska. 1-7 this year against those programs was unacceptable.
I know Nebraska and Northwestern were NCAA teams, but going 0-3 against them and not being competitive is down right BS.

I have enjoyed these two putting out videos about the portal, and the big ten in particular. One is a Michigan fan who fears Dusty will leave Michigan for IU one day. The other is a MSU fan who is tired of Izzo. 
I shared this video because it is about Luke Goode, but the joke near the end about Woody was pretty funny, especially for you dumpers :)

We are all seeking results, but you can't win games in the offseason. So, what results are you expecting currently?
Most who are "optimistic" are simply enjoying the roster overhaul. Of course there are a few extreme pumpers and extreme dumpers on both ends of the spectrum.
I have seen a large majority excited about the additions, but guarded about what it means for next year (me included). Not sure what else you are looking for at this point.

Stop losing to Penn State, Northwestern, Rutgers, and Nebraska. 1-7 this year against those programs was unacceptable.
I know Nebraska and Northwestern were NCAA teams, but going 0-3 against them and not being competitive is down right BS.

Officially on board. 

Did you expect us to have a chance after Ballo committed? Not sure that was likely to happen given the market for Payne.

Color-coded response is strong work.

We are all seeking results, but you can't win games in the offseason. So, what results are you expecting currently?
Most who are "optimistic" are simply enjoying the roster overhaul. Of course there are a few extreme pumpers and extreme dumpers on both ends of the spectrum.
I have seen a large majority excited about the additions, but guarded about what it means for next year (me included). Not sure what else you are looking for at this point.

Anthony Leal is our backup. Thought that was common knowledge?

Also, kids are going to bet on themselves. As they should.
They believe if they get the opportunity to start/play a ton they will produce and make themselves a lot more money in the long run professionally (NBA or overseas). That makes more sense than taking a bigger paycheck to sit the bench.