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I typed and deleted a response to Home Jersey a few times.  You're welcome.

Tempers are going to flare on this one.  I've got STRONG opinions Re: Politics with IU and therefore try to stay out of all this stuff.  The 2 sides will not see each other's side and opinions won't be swayed.  

You literally just posted political BS. Those are political issues that have nothing to do with the education of college students.
If you know more than what you're letting on, I think we would all appreciate it you shared it instead of the constant "trust me, I know but can't share" type of response.
But what you chose to copy from the IDS article implies that is what this is about, most of which is purely political. 

The lack of diversity of views is the problem I am complaining about.  That is THE issue with the faculty.  And the viewpoint that they have on most topics is out of step with the majority of the rest of the state.  Whitten is trying to thread the needle and they want to dump her EXACTLY because she was showing lack of conformity to the faculty. 

Tl/Dr:  The faculty is incapable of reading the room which makes their input a net negative on those topics.
 
Perhaps having the faculty too involved in the administrative side of things is part of the issue.  Let's just get down to brass tacks.  Bloomington and the Indiana faculty likely hold views closer to San Francisco than (pick almost anywhere in this state).  Whitten has to balance the idea that a whole bunch of people in this state aren't super interested in funding some of the absolute nonsense that passes as "scholarship" and "academic freedom" these days.  For each of those items, it was better for the school to not let the faculty be involved.
The professor lied about using facilities to promote a group that is out of step with the sensibilities of this state.  It also happened at a time where Palestinian support movements on campus were basically nothing but anti-semitic rants that were harassing Jewish students and celebrating the televised murder of Israeli civilians.  There was a reason he lied about the event and the lie meant he should be punished.
Related to that, having a person with similar views at a similar time displaying art in the Eskanazi art center was probably a good idea to 86 as well.  The background of the multimillion dollar donor Eskanazis would lead one to believe that they would probably not appreciate someone who basically promotes killing the jews having their art displayed all over a center with their name on it.  The donor wins over the lefty faculty on that.  Sorry.
Kinsey is a blight on the school.  We can pull Jordan's name off of everything because of his views but still support the extremely questionable stuff Kinsey did with children.  ---- that guy and everything to do with him. 
On the last, she did go and oppose the bill.  She doesn't have a vote in government though so don't know what they expected.  Those people are her boss and hold the purse strings so again, being more militant like the faculty wanted is just cutting off your nose to spite your face.  Furthermore, the fact that the University is so wildly out of step with the rest of the state on a whole host of topics is a big reason why people are supportive of bills like that in the first place.  As someone who is politically on the other side of what is the norm in Bloomington and the school in particular, it gets noticed how hostile they are to people who have opinions like me, which are the dominate opinions in this state at the moment.  I think they waste money on stupid BS and it is a disservice to educating people in this state.  You get the perception that the school looks down its nose at the state it is in and that is part of what chases kids out of state after spending 4 years there.

Or the Evansville dude who could stretch the floor at the 4. Just worried about MR and Ballo clogging the hell out of the lane. 

So, if Malone's visit has ended, does that mean we're discussing Post Malone?

Sorry -- couldn't help myself ... 

@Home Jersey I don't really think it's IU that needs selling on Essegian but rather Essegian needing selling on IU.  From his standpoint, is a small defined role better than what he could find elsewhere?  He can start at mid majors and compete for a starting job (might not win one) at a lower P5.  He will have other places he can get more minutes.  More $?  Maybe not.

This is why Malone intrigues me—he might have some of Essegian’s shooting plus more size and rebounding 
sounds like there’s a pretty good market for him though 

Well, if it’s between Connor and Walker, I’ll take Walker. 

I don't think it's a big deal. I've been through the recruiting process for work a few times. Pretty similar process to us bringing in players. They put you up in a nice hotel, get the serious stuff and interviews done during the day, and then take you out to a nice dinner. People typically have a drink or two at the dinner.
I think a recruit going to the Bluebird on a recruiting visit is basically the college kid equivalent of me having a drink at Ruth's Chris. 

as I said, IMO....lol
The Biscuits and Gravy with Seasoned Potatoes is A1. 

The best place for breakfast…IMO…

He and Essegian were with the entire staff at the Uptown for breakfast this morning.

We heard a lot of these same comments on Woody and how the preparation for the visit was better than other schools on prior recruiting wins but I think the noise around the program has many of us wondering which is true. I remember guys saying they were not promised anything, that we had tape ready to show them what to expect and what to work on, different but better preparation than kids saw at other schools.  Now we as a fan base seem convinced that this guy has to start or no way he is coming if he is not a starter.  I don't claim to know which is true but it is good to see these comments from Bryson's dad.

We heard a lot of these same comments on Woody and how the preparation for the visit was better than other schools on prior recruiting wins but I think the noise around the program has many of us wondering which is true. I remember guys saying they were not promised anything, that we had tape ready to show them what to expect and what to work on, different but better preparation than kids saw at other schools.  Now we as a fan base seem convinced that this guy has to start or no way he is coming if he is not a starter.  I don't claim to know which is true but it is good to see these comments from Bryson's dad.

I'm guessing he's being told to delete them. Messages don't just disappear on X. He was being a little too loose with his info 

Don't know what's going on with Tyme's account -- he had mentioned some time yesterday that he made tweets in the morning and they were deleted, not by him.  He had some tweets yesterday as well, mostly in regard to Essegian that looked to be deleted now as well.  Have no reason to believe that he is deleting them himself but it looks like someone is reporting his tweets and they are getting blocked.
While I don't like his harping on other 'media' not knowing what is really going at IU, I certainly haven't seen anything he has tweeted that is ban worthy.

True, but Riley Monix of Morehead State was an NAIA player of the year I believe in 23 and he was a stud at Morehead State last year.  I think it's a bigger issue if a player is simply more athletic than his NAIA counterparts which is how they score.  Malone certainly was bigger, but the fact that he can shoot it as well IMO says he also did it with some skills.

I'm very rarely serious

Tim does zero social media so it would be funny if he had a burner. I originally thought it could be but the more I think about it he wouldn't be defending Woodson that hard on there. Tim has been through so many coaches he just does his job and moves on. 

But there are certainly more than 948 faculty who would have been eligible to vote. Only one side of the vote was motivated to take the time to do so apparently.

I thought that was floated then we heard the $1.2 was what was needed to pull him from IU and that we paid less. 

I like the maxim about the truth being somewhere in the middle.
However, I can't help but feel like I should side with President Whitten in this.
There isn't a more self-righteous, entitled group of people on the planet than college professors.