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Wow now that’s good use of NIL money. Legend

Yeah - Miday didn’t last 4 years. He’s the one who came to practice with long hair a Knight told him to go get a haircut before he could come back. Miday retorted that Jesus had long hair. Knight escorted Miday to Royer pool and told him if he could walk across the pool he could keep his long hair. LOL

Don Noort. I know that I am not the first to submit his name but I feel the need reinforce the sentiment. Remember a game where he was the recipient of a long fast break outlet pass under the bucket with no defender within 10 feet of him and rather than go up and lay it in he felt the need to pump fake his invisible defender and by the time he went up to lay it in his real defender had arrived on the scene and swatted his shot. A kegger party at my Walnut Knolls apartment in play here too but want to stay on topic.

Exactly Four year scholly guy—not fifty years ago either

Ah yes the VO comparison. Took a while but we all knew where this was heading.

Eli “potted plant” Holman

Jessan Gray-Ashley, Jeremiah April, Lucas Steijn, Guy-Marc Michel, Roger Rothbart

Kyle Taber. 5 seasons, four coaches. Initially a walk on, ended up as a scholarship player.

Of recent. Max Hoetzel/Montana Grant Gelon 2 of the most obscure recruitments I’ve witnessed.

https://247sports.com/college/maryland/Article/Kevin-Willard-Big-Ten-doesnt-understand-how-to-schedule-a-basketball-game-has-caused-its-title-drought-201188531/ This is one epic whine by Kevin Willard. Yeah, pretty sure Purdue lost to St Peter’s because of the way the B1G league office scheduled them in January. Tell you what, Kevin, I’ll stipulate to your tournament expertise since you’ve won 1 tournament game in your career, but how about playing at least, I don’t know, half of a conference schedule before going off on it.

You mean Vic didn’t threaten to transfer, show up late to the bus, and complain about his role? Lol. I feel like anytime there’s an athletic but raw guy the Vic comparisons come out, but players like Vic are a rare breed.

Geronimo is shooting 15% from 3 this year, on the most attempts of his career per game (slightly), and 29% for his career. Him shooting 3s? Literally every defense we would face agrees with that. EDIT: Plus over his career as his attempts have gone up the percentage has gone down.

Food for thought: Geronimo has played 67 games and has shot 15 of 52 from three (29%). In terms of 'big 3's', he's only made 3 three pointers in games we won that were even close (within 15).

We certainly don’t want JG and Race shooting more threes. Bates and Galloway and maybe Gunn will be getting minutes that X had so I expect that that combo will shoot more threes than X did.

Peter Jurkin

Our more…ahem, experienced…posters will be able to come up with more obscure names than us whippersnappers. I’ll throw Austin Etherington’s name into the ring.

A continuation on this. Their guards last night came out past the three point line to guard aggressively with proper stance and hand position. Smaller and less athletic but far superior basketball technique. I don’t know if it was #1 or #21 but we haven’t had a guard defend like that in eons. (Xavier was close) We are so passive on defense. Almost like we are playing a zone with the help side. And I understand help side. But individually seeing proper stance, hands, and aggressiveness is refreshing. Simple basic stuff. We had guys closing out with narrow stances and hands not out or up but just at their sides, as entry passes go around them. I don’t get it. Basic stuff.

First comparison of Indiana's three point percentage made and percentage of shots that are taken that are three pointers compared to other Big Ten teams: IU: hitting 36.5% of our threes; 32.6% of shots are three pointers Illinois: hitting 33.3% of their threes; 45.8% of shots are threes. Iowa: hitting 32.7% of their threes; 36.8% of shots are threes Maryland: hitting 32.2% of their threes; 41.0% of shots are threes Michigan: hitting 36.0% of their threes; 37.9% of shots are threes Michigan St: hitting 37.7% of their threes; 33.4% of shots are threes Minnesota: hitting 32.9% of their threes; 38.7% of shots are threes Nebraska: hitting 29.7% of their threes; 37.5% of shots are threes Ohio State: hitting 37.5% of their threes; 32.8% of their shots are threes Penn State: hitting 39.8% of their threes; 40.4% of their shots are threes Purdue: hitting 31.1% of their threes; 39.8% of their shots are threes Northwestern: hitting 31.9% of their threes; 44.2 of their shots are threes Wisconsin: hitting 37.4% of their threes; 40.3% of their shots are threes Rutgers: hitting 30.2% of their threes; 29.9% of their shots are threes Indiana is 5th in three point percentage, 13th in rate of three pointers shot per field goal attempts. Median values for the league: 33.1% of field goals made, 38.3% of shots taken are three pointers. By three pointers made per game, IU is tied for 10th in the conference with Purdue at 7.1 made per game. In attempts, they are only ahead of Nebraska. IU takes 19 per game. For comparison: IU averages 7.1 made threes on 19 attempts; the league medians are 7.5 makes on 23 attempts. Last year IU made 6.1 on 18 attempts.

This is what happens when greedy conferences want to expand and get to big . When it was 10 the scheduling was easy and it was a round robin. Also the schedule would be every team played on Thursday and Saturday and everyone had a travel partner. It was so easy to keep track when and who you were playing.

Quick look at Twitter and it seems bashing conference schedules his is thing. I guess he did it at seton hall as well.

With all due respect to JG…he should never be compared to Vic. Hanner? Yes. Vic? Hell no.

I didn't recall him playing quite a bit but I looked it up. https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/magnus-pelkowski-1.html

I agree. But he was the best coach we've had since Bobby Knight.

Along with Oliphant, how about Magnus Pelkowski? 4 years as well.

That was my first guess as well. Jeff still attends IU games.

Jeff Oliphant?

Rob Turner. Rotation guy and part time starter on some tourney teams. But he was part of those late Knight teams that not many people remember outside of Guyton and Recker.

He's athletic but that doesn't mean he's another Vic; Vic exploded as a JR and worked his tail off to get there.

I thought about him, too. Deserves special recognition for being the 1st guy I remember to transfer because he flat out said he didn’t like RMK yelling at him.

I would say Galloway's technique is pretty good. When he's beat, I wouldn't say it's technique but rather that he's been beat by someone faster.

Donald Perry didn't start that year, Coverdale was the starting PG

I missed the announcement that he was benched 3 days ago. Haven't paid much attention to the Colts lately outside of games.

Donald Perry was the starting point guard of a Final Four team Does Antwaan Randle El count? He was so fast on the court

Damn beat me to this 1. Great pick.

I was watching with only one eye lol... Lazy first H... But overall... G play was decent. JHS was good, Gallo good, and Bates had a nice game. I know they looked directionless at times, but understandable without X and TJD, and playing 2 frosh... no biggee. a W is a W... now the work starts...

I would say Sampson doesn't recruit student-athletes. He recruits basketball players.

Scary Larry

David Minor on the 87 championship team as well as Toney Freeman.

Ended up at 139 in his class on 247, so not a total nobody, but I’m not sure about as an underclassman. I think his brother may have been a bit higher rated especially early on?

Athletes not caring about going to class was far from exclusive to Sampson. I and some of my friends had classes with IU basketball players, and even the ones you’d expect to care would rarely show up. He’s got Houston rolling. #3 in the country. Could’ve been doing it here but IU was too self-righteous.

Don Noort

That’s a nice one. The rest of the Cody Zeller class.

Cem Dinc

So no Ivan Renko How about Guy Micheal. There were a lot under David who never planned out as well

I don’t think your idea is that off fwiw. I haven’t seen a level of play from Banks to justify his displacing guys in the regular rotation, and anything we see now is without X which hurts us badly, but the offense is predictable and still limited, not as one dimensional as it was before Kopp and Bates started finding their outside game, and JHS helps create well. I think this and these discussions really come down to bball philosophy and personal risk willingness. So one of the reasons i’m such a Geronimo backer (and Bates and Gallo) is that he/they bring athleticism, quickness, steals, blocks and with JG and Gallo an ability to guard athletic guys and get out and run. That’s not to say I don’t like Race, his ability to step out has grown, he rebounded like an animal in this game (but against undersized guys) and he’s a savvy player who doesn’t make many mistakes— but we are too limited offensively in the usual lineups and strategy (imo). So where I think the disconnect is between fans like me who want to see guys like JG or for you Banks getting real run, and guys who respond by pointing out only their limitations (current or perceived) and that well, Woodson sees them in practice so end of discussion — Is I’d rather see certain guys in with the mistakes they’ll make, the still developing defensive awareness or timing, so long as they’re developing and improving on that, for the speed, athleticism, energy and diversity they add to our game, really on both sides of the ball. We saw how limited our usual lineup/ gameplan is against a team like AZ. That’s not to say hey look I’m right, but it’s what I see. People who strongly disagree I think have more of an RMK mindset to the game — no mistakes allowed. RMK’s (who of course is one of the best ever) philosophy included the idea that the team that makes fewer mistakes wins, that was one of his hallmarks. And if a guy made one RMK typically would yank him and chew him out. I liked many things about him, but not that, and in his later years it wasn’t working, our guys would just swing the ball around the perimeter, looking scared to screw up. I don’t want a team’s development - and ability to counter more athletic teams - held back by the idea you can’t play if you are making mistakes. Woodson to me looks to very much have that philosophy and he imposes it harder on some than others (he can’t afford to with JHS for example). That’s also the “trust” level that drives playing time. I want more risk for what i think is higher reward. That comes down to personal philosophy. We have talent that I think needs more run, and would help make us less predictable

And a great kid on top of that! They seem to have a great culture in that locker room, as well. Don't they have a bunch of draft picks in 23?

Wasn’t impressed! Yuck! Against a team from the ASUN? Really? And you wanna do what in the B1G?

No one got IU or Kennesaw's score. @tkbbn leads after the 2022 part of the schedule. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year! Overall Game 13 Rank 2022-23 IUBB Points Rank IU/Kennesaw Points 1 tkbbn 1271 1 LIHoosier 112 2 HoosierHoops1 1251 2 RaceToTheTop 110 3 HoosierHoopster 1245 3 Honkyman 108 4 Napleshoosier 1245 4 Josh 108 5 johnsoniu 1233 5 mamasa 108 6 Josh 1232 6 BottomLine 107 7 LIHoosier 1232 7 Dave from Dayton 107 8 Naturalhoosier 1232 8 DWB 107 9 Class of '66 Old Fart 1231 9 HoosierCoop 107 10 craigyv88 1228 10 rcs29 107 11 RaceToTheTop 1228 11 HoosierHoopster 105 12 Stuhoo 1228 12 IU Scott 105 13 IU - Kaulie 1227 13 Class of '66 Old Fart 104 14 BottomLine 1226 14 hper50 104 15 BGVille Hoosierfan 1222 15 Demo 103 16 IU Scott 1218 16 HoosierHoops1 103 17 Crazy About IU 1217 17 IUc2016 103 18 WayneFleekHoosier 1216 18 Stuhoo 103 19 LamarCheeks 1215 19 thebigweave 103 20 Redcamaro 1214 20 johnsoniu 101 21 Rico 1211 21 WayneFleekHoosier 101 22 Demo 1210 22 BGVille Hoosierfan 101 23 muttcs66 1209 23 muttcs66 99 24 IUc2016 1199 24 Napleshoosier 99 25 Joe_hoopsier 1190 25 Naturalhoosier 99 26 choosierred1 1188 26 Redcamaro 99 27 DWB 1187 27 tkbbn 99 28 HoosierCoop 1187 28 Henryville Hoosier 98 29 Henryville Hoosier 1185 29 Joe_hoopsier 98 30 rcs29 1183 30 LamarCheeks 98 31 coonhounds 1179 31 choosierred1 97 32 thebigweave 1173 32 DChoosier 96 33 Honkyman 1163 33 TTT 96 34 Hovadipo 1161 34 Crazy About IU 95 35 incrediboy 1159 35 incrediboy 95 36 Dave from Dayton 1157 36 IU - Kaulie 95 37 killerbeezer 1151 37 Rico 95 38 mamasa 1151 38 coonhounds 87 39 DChoosier 1147 39 craigyv88 85 40 hper50 1132 40 ALASKA HOOSIER 74 41 Schreckbagger 1088 42 ALASKA HOOSIER 927 43 HoosierTrav 845 44 Old Friend 838 45 HoosierFan1994 728 46 Tasmanian Devil 609 47 Str8Hoosiers 469 48 patrickmorriso9 453 49 realTomCrean 429 50 Loaded Chicken Sandwich 424 51 Hoosierfan1901 383 52 monskisprodigy 238 53 IUsafety 217 54 OGIUAndy 207 55 Southside 113 56 AKHoosier 111 57 Woodson1980 107 58 bmitch 104 59 jepwatso 104 60 hoosierrebel1620 101 61 cthomas 100 62 TTT 96 63 IUFootballEndlessMisery 51 64 ray 51 65 Hoosierfanyuh 47 66 bigrod 29 67 Barrel Rick -18

I sure wish some would get involved as opposed to what we have now. Unfortunately, I have a hunch IU’s business savvy alumni might realize setting a couple million a year on fire in the backyard might be a better use of their money than giving it to IU football.

And we're sitting here wondering if IU could drop 275k on Emory f'n Jones lol.