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My money is on the Gator or Music City. Selfishly, Pinstripe Bowl due to my proximity of NYC. That's a loooooong shot considering we were just there a few years back. PS...the FG was good.

You think this is the only "easy" schedule IU has had in the last 26 years? Somehow Allen was the only one to actually go and win eight games in all that time, and we didn't have to play Ohio State, Michigan, AND Penn State every year for most of that stretch. The people complaining about who we beat have totally lost the plot. No one ever brings up who we beat when we last won 8 games in 1993. They're not going to talk about it with this team either. Indiana has won 9 games only twice. Ever. Against all sorts of schedules. And people are spitting in the face of 8 wins? Get some perspective, please!

Gradman this one is for you.

IU is missing a healthy Phinisee a ton. The keyword is healthy. He wasn’t fully healthy even when he was playing. He missed almost all of October practices. You don’t just walk on the court after missing a month of practice and look 100%.

It’s like moving the goalposts every time this team hits a goal and telling them nah sorry you have to beat teams with amazing records or winning records to get respect from IU fans. It’s a joke. It was just win winnable games and be decent and get to a bowl. Everyone was whining for the past two seasons....Tom has missed the bowl. He needs to get to a bowl. Well he’s made a bowl and he’s 8-4. Eight......and Four. Stop moving the goalposts and looking for ways to discredit this team. This staff and HC did what many felt like they wouldn’t do....this team won multiple big ten games.

Looks like a live action version of Gru from Despicable Me.

I had a nice conversation with a guy at church today (he knows I'm a huge IU fan). He said- "Sure is great about the football team. Proud of those boys. Good to see our Hoosiers doing well". I thought about this today- this mass majority of fans don't care about efficiency, who is quarterbacking, lack of discipline, etc. Other than this microcosm of fans that dissect every single part of the game, most only care about the outcome. Not saying that it's wrong to want to clean it up, but to act like the world is ending because of it is just silly. The best part of what he said? "Our Hoosiers", not Penix's Hoosiers, not Ramsey's Hoosiers, not Allen's Hoosiers, but Our Hoosiers.

This team went 3-2 on the road and 5-4 in conference. When was the last time we had winning records on the road and in conference? Tom Allen exceeded expectations this year, plain and simple. Expectations shifted throughout the season as we realized we had a better team than we expected. It sucks knowing we were really only a few plays away from being 10-2 with wins at MSU and at PSU.

Don’t want to go to the west coast. Would love the gator bowl versus Kentucky

Crazy numbers: After 7 games this year we are 7-0 but, of course, we haven't played any one. We are averaging 86.4 points/game and we are giving up 63.6/game. Last year at this time we were 5-2. the two losses were to Arkansas by 1 on the road and by 21 to Duke on the road. We had a good 23 point win over Marquette and 4 wins over cupcakes Chicago St, Montana St, Texas Arlington and UC-Davis. At that point we were averaging 82.1 points/game and giving up 64.6. Are the numbers really any better than last year, considering the competition? In a roller-coaster year we followed the Duke loss by winning 7 in a row to bring us to 12-2 and a #21 ranking in the AP poll. That was followed by a loss in 12 of the next 13 games before we righted ourselves and ended the regular season with 4 straight wins. By the end of the year we had a scoring average of 71.5 and a defensive average of 67.8 Really hope for a win on Tuesday but folks the jury is still out.

It’s not about the decisions, it’s about rust and health. When you haven’t practiced in a month, missed the scrimmage, missed both exhibitions, and the first game or two you’re going to be really rusty. That rust is going to impact things such as timing, speed of the game, etc. Passes you think should be there, you might have the timing off on. This happens all of the time when people miss considerable time. What seems more likely? Phinisee was rusty from missing a month+, or Phinisee randomly, despite working hard all summer, just out of the blue got worse?

Or maybe Phinisee wasn’t actually that great but looked it compared to the options we had? I would say it’s somewhere in the middle of those two. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

A few thoughts here... Remember that Fred Glass mentioned before the season started that he had some money held back in anticipation of a Tom Allen raise (don't have the link, I think it was an Osterman article). This was before our best season in 26 years. I would say a raise for him is a near certainty. As in like 99.9% certainty How much should/will he get? Not sure, but I'd be surprised if his salary wasn't doubled. He's proved he can compete in the Big Ten and deserves a competitive Big Ten salary. That's fair. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to see him around 4 million a year. And that still only puts him in the middle of the Big Ten. Does he deserve that pay? Well, we've gone 8-4 this year. Can we honestly expect much better? Of course we'll keep pushing but IU football has had a ceiling for a long time. We darn near reached it this year. Historically speaking this was easily one of the ten best seasons in IU history. He's 18-19 at IU. Historically speaking that's pretty good for us. Allen has done something here few coaches have ever done. I think IU is fortunate that Allen seems like he wants to be here because IU doesn't have much football leverage. We have very little draw. We are not going to attract great coaches. If we ever found a GREAT coach, we'd have him a year before leaving to a bigger school. We're not the type of program that can switch coaches and have immediate success. My opinion? We should be appreciative of what we have. Allen isn't a GREAT coach. But he's pretty solid. We've got momentum with him. If you're wanting back to back 8-4 seasons at IU before giving him a raise, I'm afraid we'll lose him because another school will take him from us. Is it a risk that we could slide back to 5-7? You bet. But again, what leverage does IU football have? Considering the market, it's a risk worth taking.

Not picking up that there's any real IU interest but I'll try to keep you updated anyway since he does have his own thread. Castle 54, Southridge 44: The Raiders (0-1) dropped their first game of the year on Saturday at the University of Southern Indiana. However, junior Colson Montgomery needed 12 points — and got 16 — to eclipse the 1,000 point total in his career. His 16 points were a team-high.

I’ve had some people down here in SoIn chat with me bout how well the team has performed this season. It’s kind of cool to have the “good season” conversation over the “really close” conversation. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Kid literally can’t catch a break. And the amount of crap he gets from fans is insane considering how much he hurt his draft stick just to play when he could have had surgery and shut it down. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

This is why I’ve stressed the importance of having a second true point guard on the roster, others have dismissed it saying we have other combo guards that can fill in. Problem is, when Phinisee isn’t healthy, they aren’t just filling in anymore. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Agree. Carton didn’t vibe with our players for whatever reason. (Or vibed with OSU players better). Brooks made a bad decision imo although he, Smith, and Hunter all play the same position. Plus, I’m not sure the expectations of his family fit what’s best for IUBB. He’s not getting that at UK either. Oscar Tscheibwe is a man child. It was never going to be but he would have been a nice addition. Any other important “misses” to reminisce about? Short shorts Quinones. Eh, he’s ok. Probably will be good down the line. Sent from my iPad using BtownBanners mobile app

We havent seen a healthy Phinisee in a long time which is why Ive said we needed to keep recruiting guards. Carton is looking like a bigger miss than Brooks right now.

We haven't seen a healthy Phinisee this year. Even when he did play he was playing injured.

Probably not. More development side of things. Leif can be a stud once he adds weight. Can’t teach length and athleticism Like that for a big guy....he could play anywhere on the line especially if the coaches think he’s long enough for tackle. Sciury is an early enrollee. He’s got size, but does he have strength. He’s been compared to Wes Martin. I also like the kid out of Missouri. However our starting line could look amazing if it looks like this and turns into quite possibly one of our stronger units. possible starting line given this is how it plays out LT- Bedford LG- Powell (transfer from Stanford) or crider C- Crider Or Powell RG- Coy cronk (comes back and plays interior given that’s where nfl will play him if he gets to the league) RT- Caleb Jones

@VO5 wins the bucket game with 109 pts. The overtimes ruined anyone's chances of getting one of the scores right. The lead for @IUsafety narrows slightly as we head to hopefully a decent bowl game at the end of the month. Overall Week 14 Rank 2019 IUFB Points Rank IU/Purdue Points 1 IUsafety 1149 1 VO5 109 2 biteoftheapple 1138 2 thebigweave 105 3 Jhoosier914 1137 3 Naturalhoosier 104 4 HoosierAloha 1126 4 rcs29 104 5 LIHoosier 1124 5 biteoftheapple 102 6 The Ola Depot 1114 6 VPC 102 7 VPC 1106 7 HoosierAloha 99 8 fwgreenway 1105 8 The Ola Depot 99 9 Napleshoosier 1102 9 DChoosier 98 10 MemphisHoosier 1097 10 IUsafety 98 11 Old Friend 1085 11 jbell833 98 12 VO5 1075 12 fwgreenway 97 13 johnsoniu 1074 13 mamasa 96 14 ThompsonHoosier 1069 14 LIHoosier 95 15 LamarCheeks 1067 15 MemphisHoosier 95 16 Naturalhoosier 1065 16 Napleshoosier 95 17 Dchoosier 1061 17 johnsoniu 94 18 JaybobHoosier 1052 18 ALASKA HOOSIER 93 19 WayneFleekHoosier 1047 19 Old Friend 91 20 jbell833 996 20 WayneFleekHoosier 41 21 thebigweave 981 22 mamasa 975 23 rcs29 956 24 BtownBanner6 865 25 lucel15 838 26 ALASKA HOOSIER 669 27 Loaded Chicken Sandwich 569 28 Hoosier116 458 29 IUc2016 408 30 OGIUAndy 315 31 Magnanimous 271 32 323SGrant 222 33 bigrod 220 34 mdn82 213 35 FKfootball1 207 36 Brass Cannon 128 37 brumdog45 115 38 ap2345 114 39 Me So Hornsby 110 40 BabyJandJDaddy 108 41 iuswingman 104 42 KzooHoosier82 101 43 Chris007 97 44 Hardwood83 95 45 mjhoosier 47 46 wirenuts 33

Nick Saban is the first Alabama coach to miss the College Football Playoff. I think he needs fired. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

How nice of you to ask....but I’m married.

Some guy posted this on twitter and it couldn’t be more true about IU fans sometimes... LOL “Missed both the IU football and basketball games today but I did follow the #iufb and #iubb hashtags on twitter. It sucks we lost both games by 30 point” Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners