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http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/notre-dame/2016/12/07/alumni-take-out-full-page-ad-blasting-notre-dame-ad-jack-swarbrick/95097572/

ND alums/fans are none to happy it seems.


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[LIHoosier 24,997]

A nice article about how the B1G has become big again due to not only BTN $$$, but also sticking to their academic principles amongst other things(for the most part).

http://www.si.com/college-football/2016/12/07/big-ten-football-revival

[Class of '66 Old Fart 80,957]

A true classic!   

 

[LIHoosier 24,997]

On 12/8/2016 at 10:43 AM, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Humorous tweet of the day - so far.

 

rickbozichVerified account‏@rickbozich

So Houston recruits Lane Kiffin to pair with Kelvin Sampson. Who's next, Sammy Sosa or Roger Clemens to coach baseball?

Houston have promoted Major Applewhite to HC and Luke Fickell is taking I-71 south to Cincinnati.

[Class of '66 Old Fart 80,957]

2 Louisville football players reportedly shot at off-campus party Saturday night

LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) -- Two University of Louisville football players were reportedly shot Saturday night at an off-campus apartment.

Sources close to the team tell WDRB News that junior linebacker James Hearns and sophomore linebacker Henry Famurewa were both shot at a party at an apartment near the university.

Neither of the victim's injuries appear to be life-threatening. 

There was a third victim also shot, but that person's name is still unknown.

This story will be updated.

[Class of '66 Old Fart 80,957]

If this turns out to be true, this is an unbelievable story.

Wake Forest says its radio announcer gave secret game plan info to opponents for years

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2016/12/13/13942472/wake-forest-louisville-radio-announcer-tommy-elrod-mole

[Brass Cannon 24,064]

25 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

If this turns out to be true, this is an unbelievable story.

Wake Forest says its radio announcer gave secret game plan info to opponents for years

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2016/12/13/13942472/wake-forest-louisville-radio-announcer-tommy-elrod-mole

Could this have something to do with Wilson resigning if WF notified us they believed he had taken advantage of the Mole?  I could see Wilson doing it tbh. 

[Class of '66 Old Fart 80,957]

21 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Could this have something to do with Wilson resigning if WF notified us they believed he had taken advantage of the Mole?  I could see Wilson doing it tbh. 

If he did, he didn't pay very close attention to the info he was given - Wake won the game 33-28.

[Brass Cannon 24,064]

49 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

If he did, he didn't pay very close attention to the info he was given - Wake won the game 33-28.

Took 6 turnovers or something crazy like that . We won last year. 

[Alford Bailey 12,249]

1 hour ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

If this turns out to be true, this is an unbelievable story.

Wake Forest says its radio announcer gave secret game plan info to opponents for years

http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2016/12/13/13942472/wake-forest-louisville-radio-announcer-tommy-elrod-mole

Crazy. Why would he leak info on his own team and who would take info from the oppositions radio guy?

[lucel15 3,052]

http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/18273667/ten-minnesota-golden-gophers-suspended-ahead-bowl-game-violating-rules


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[ThompsonHoosier 3,413]

The Dirt Keeps Piling Up at Louisville on Tum Jurich's Watch.

--Dan Wetzel

You would have thought that the most baffling thing to happen this week in college athletics would be the curious case of a Wake Forest football radio broadcaster getting fired for sharing “confidential and proprietary game preparations on multiple occasions” with opposing teams over the last few years.

There is nothing like the radio guy selling out his own program, where he used to coach and play, no less.

Then, however, came a statement Wednesday from University of Louisville athletic director Tom Jurich. It rewrites the definition of NCAA tone-deafness and pretty much explains how college sports got here in the first place.

First, recall that the Cardinals were under suspicion for cheating after documents Wake Forest said were “related to their game plan” were discovered at Papa John’s Stadium following the Cardinals’ 44-12 victory last month.

Louisville coach Bobby Petrino denied the Cardinals cheated or knew anything about it then. He was aghast at the implication.

Then this week, Wake revealed that broadcaster Tommy Elrod had been canned for sharing secrets. When Elrod was on the Wake staff, he was co-coordinator of the passing game with a guy named Lonnie Galloway, who, not coincidentally, is now an assistant at … Louisville.

And so now we get this gem from Jurich, Louisville’s long-time boss of athletics:

“Our offensive coordinator Lonnie Galloway and Tommy Elrod have known each other since 2007. Lonnie received a call from Elrod during the week of the Wake Forest game, and some information was shared with him that week.

“Among the communication were a few plays that were sent and then shared with our defensive staff. None of the special plays were run during the course of the game. Our defense regularly prepares for similar formations every week in their normal game plan.

“Any other information that may have been discussed was nothing that our staff had not already seen while studying Wake Forest in their preparations for the game and the material was not given any further attention. I’m disappointed that this issue has brought undue attention to our football staff as we prepare for our upcoming bowl game.”

Translated to English:

Sure, sure, we attempted to cheat but we didn’t actually cheat because of circumstance. Plus, we already knew some of the secret information so, trust us, it wouldn’t have mattered at all. Oh, and while we were completely wrong the last time we discussed this, you can totally trust what we are saying now. It’s the truth. Scout’s Honor. Now leave us alone because people asking us about this is unfair to us.

Those poor Victim Cardinals. Can someone get Papa John to build a safe space for them?

Jurich’s statement is so comically ridiculous it doesn’t even merit outrage. Just laughs. Of course Tom Jurich would sign off on that.

Look, this isn’t exactly death-penalty stuff. Coaches routinely try to find out any nugget of information they can from anywhere they can. Elrod was clearly willing to deal it. Why? Maybe it was because the new Wake Forest coach didn’t keep him on staff? Maybe it was for gambling purposes? Maybe it was just because? Who knows?

Even if this is commonplace, it’s still cheating. Anything else is sugarcoating it.

Jurich is claiming it was just attempted cheating, which isn’t any better. It is like attempted murder – just because you’re a lousy shot doesn’t excuse anything. And his reasoning on how they already knew all these plays and formations is ridiculous. You can’t be a little bit pregnant on this. Besides, why would anyone take Louisville’s word for it? That the Cardinals probably would have won anyways is likewise immaterial.

The Cards cheated. And the AD is so delusional he doesn’t appear to care at all. He isn’t just not blaming or disciplining his assistant coach, he’s throwing a pity party for the guy.

If that’s the attitude of the chief administrator, well, is it really that big of a surprise that Louisville is the first school nailed in this scandal?

You might recall this is the same athletic department that saw its basketball program busted by the NCAA in October because an assistant coach kept hiring prostitutes to service players and recruits in the team dorm.

The assistant coach didn’t just do it once, but on 15 separate occasions, as Jurich, head coach Rick Pitino and anyone else at the university apparently paid not a bit of attention over what was going on during recruiting visits.

Then there is Petrino, who was fired at Arkansas after he wrecked his Harley with a former volleyball player on the back. His wife didn’t play volleyball. That’s not good. In professional terms, what’s worse was when it was revealed he’d hired the volleyball player on his staff.

And of course Pitino survived the 2003 incident where he had sex in a booth of a local restaurant that eventually led to an assistant coach driving the woman to Cincinnati for an abortion that Pitino paid for.

These are just the greatest hits, all while Jurich was athletic director. If nothing else, it’s never a dull moment at U of L.

As for the prostitute scandal, the assistant coach quit and ran. The coach and AD stayed on and blamed it all on the assistant.

Now Jurich is blaming it all on Wake Forest. If only that radio guy hadn’t called and offered up the info, our guy wouldn’t have so accurately written it down and then turned it over to the defensive assistants who then studied it.

Apparently it doesn’t make sense to expect an assistant to decline the info because, you know, it’s cheating. Or attempted cheating. Or whatever the rationalization is.

Give Jurich credit for not even pretending to care. Nope. At Louisville, it’s the coaches that are the victims here, harassed by all this undue attention.

So light a candle for poor Tom Jurich and his staff. Times are
tough out there.

[HoosierAloha 29,887]

Damn, Dan Wetzel nailed it. Cutting corners to the top is the Louisville way as well as playing the victim.

[LockdownD 2,212]

2 hours ago, ThompsonHoosier said:

The Dirt Keeps Piling Up at Louisville on Tum Jurich's Watch.

--Dan Wetzel

You would have thought that the most baffling thing to happen this week in college athletics would be the curious case of a Wake Forest football radio broadcaster getting fired for sharing “confidential and proprietary game preparations on multiple occasions” with opposing teams over the last few years.

There is nothing like the radio guy selling out his own program, where he used to coach and play, no less.

Then, however, came a statement Wednesday from University of Louisville athletic director Tom Jurich. It rewrites the definition of NCAA tone-deafness and pretty much explains how college sports got here in the first place.

First, recall that the Cardinals were under suspicion for cheating after documents Wake Forest said were “related to their game plan” were discovered at Papa John’s Stadium following the Cardinals’ 44-12 victory last month.

Louisville coach Bobby Petrino denied the Cardinals cheated or knew anything about it then. He was aghast at the implication.

Then this week, Wake revealed that broadcaster Tommy Elrod had been canned for sharing secrets. When Elrod was on the Wake staff, he was co-coordinator of the passing game with a guy named Lonnie Galloway, who, not coincidentally, is now an assistant at … Louisville.

And so now we get this gem from Jurich, Louisville’s long-time boss of athletics:

“Our offensive coordinator Lonnie Galloway and Tommy Elrod have known each other since 2007. Lonnie received a call from Elrod during the week of the Wake Forest game, and some information was shared with him that week.

“Among the communication were a few plays that were sent and then shared with our defensive staff. None of the special plays were run during the course of the game. Our defense regularly prepares for similar formations every week in their normal game plan.

“Any other information that may have been discussed was nothing that our staff had not already seen while studying Wake Forest in their preparations for the game and the material was not given any further attention. I’m disappointed that this issue has brought undue attention to our football staff as we prepare for our upcoming bowl game.”

Translated to English:

Sure, sure, we attempted to cheat but we didn’t actually cheat because of circumstance. Plus, we already knew some of the secret information so, trust us, it wouldn’t have mattered at all. Oh, and while we were completely wrong the last time we discussed this, you can totally trust what we are saying now. It’s the truth. Scout’s Honor. Now leave us alone because people asking us about this is unfair to us.

Those poor Victim Cardinals. Can someone get Papa John to build a safe space for them?

Jurich’s statement is so comically ridiculous it doesn’t even merit outrage. Just laughs. Of course Tom Jurich would sign off on that.

Look, this isn’t exactly death-penalty stuff. Coaches routinely try to find out any nugget of information they can from anywhere they can. Elrod was clearly willing to deal it. Why? Maybe it was because the new Wake Forest coach didn’t keep him on staff? Maybe it was for gambling purposes? Maybe it was just because? Who knows?

Even if this is commonplace, it’s still cheating. Anything else is sugarcoating it.

Jurich is claiming it was just attempted cheating, which isn’t any better. It is like attempted murder – just because you’re a lousy shot doesn’t excuse anything. And his reasoning on how they already knew all these plays and formations is ridiculous. You can’t be a little bit pregnant on this. Besides, why would anyone take Louisville’s word for it? That the Cardinals probably would have won anyways is likewise immaterial.

The Cards cheated. And the AD is so delusional he doesn’t appear to care at all. He isn’t just not blaming or disciplining his assistant coach, he’s throwing a pity party for the guy.

If that’s the attitude of the chief administrator, well, is it really that big of a surprise that Louisville is the first school nailed in this scandal?

You might recall this is the same athletic department that saw its basketball program busted by the NCAA in October because an assistant coach kept hiring prostitutes to service players and recruits in the team dorm.

The assistant coach didn’t just do it once, but on 15 separate occasions, as Jurich, head coach Rick Pitino and anyone else at the university apparently paid not a bit of attention over what was going on during recruiting visits.

Then there is Petrino, who was fired at Arkansas after he wrecked his Harley with a former volleyball player on the back. His wife didn’t play volleyball. That’s not good. In professional terms, what’s worse was when it was revealed he’d hired the volleyball player on his staff.

And of course Pitino survived the 2003 incident where he had sex in a booth of a local restaurant that eventually led to an assistant coach driving the woman to Cincinnati for an abortion that Pitino paid for.

These are just the greatest hits, all while Jurich was athletic director. If nothing else, it’s never a dull moment at U of L.

As for the prostitute scandal, the assistant coach quit and ran. The coach and AD stayed on and blamed it all on the assistant.

Now Jurich is blaming it all on Wake Forest. If only that radio guy hadn’t called and offered up the info, our guy wouldn’t have so accurately written it down and then turned it over to the defensive assistants who then studied it.

Apparently it doesn’t make sense to expect an assistant to decline the info because, you know, it’s cheating. Or attempted cheating. Or whatever the rationalization is.

Give Jurich credit for not even pretending to care. Nope. At Louisville, it’s the coaches that are the victims here, harassed by all this undue attention.

So light a candle for poor Tom Jurich and his staff. Times are
tough out there.



 

Good heavens.  U of L is the cesspool of collegiate athletics and the AD seems to be ok with it.  

[akhosrof 1,168]

Matt Canada is hired as LSU's OC. Canada is an IU alum, who was our OC under Bill Lynch. In total: Canada was a grad assistant for two years and an assistant coach for seven years at IU. He's a hot coaching prospect who could be a head coach in the near future.


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[Class of '66 Old Fart 80,957]

Great piece on U of L's sleazey athletics and its sleazier AD from Sports Illustrated.

http://www.si.com/college-football/2016/12/14/wake-forest-louisville-scandal-tommy-elrod-tom-jurich-bobby-petrino

[Class of '66 Old Fart 80,957]

Minnesota football boycotting to protest teammates’ suspensions

The entire Minnesota football team says it is boycotting all football activities until it gets satisfactory answers from the university about the suspension of 10 players this week.

The school suspended the players after an internal investigation into a sexual assault case. Police declined to charge any of the players, but the school suspended them based on internal regulations involving sexual assault allegations.

Full article at:

http://www.si.com/college-football/2016/12/15/minnesota-golden-gophers-boycott-protest-suspension-sexual-assault-update

[ThompsonHoosier 3,413]

Wake Forest coach: Staff found game plan on Louisville sideline day before game

-Nick Bromberg

Wake Forest coach Dave Clawson said his team became aware that Louisville had an idea of its game preparations the day before the Demon Deacons were set to play the Cardinals.

Clawson, appearing on ESPN Radio’s Mike and Mike on Friday morning, said members of Wake Forest’s equipment staff found detailed play information on the sideline as the locker room was being set up. That discovery set off the investigation that led to the firing of radio announcer Tommy Elrod this week.

Elrod, a Wake graduate, was not retained as a member of Wake Forest’s coaching staff when Clawson came to the team in 2014. Clawson said Elrod was “extremely professional” when he was told he wouldn’t be returning to the coaching staff

“When we arrived for our game against Louisville [Nov. 12], our equipment staff had found materials on our sideline the Friday when they set up the locker room. You’re not allowed to get there until a certain time, the assumption being they’re having their walk-through there.

And our equipment people found cards just laying right on our sideline and didn’t think much of it. And then the day of the game we got there about an hour before and we found — the equipment manager presented our offensive coordinator with the cards and said I don’t think this is any big deal. It was just a lot of stuff that we do normally. Our offensive coordinator flipped through it and there was very, very detailed information there.

Formations that we had never run, alignments, even some of it was maybe some empty sets that we had never run before. But some of it was even sets we had run but we had flipped personnel. Louisville is an excellent football team and it was a game that we felt in order to score points we had to have some wrinkles in. And all of those wrinkles were right in front of us. And at that point we knew we had been compromised. And as a result, a lot of those things that we had prepared we couldn’t run because we knew they had it. After the game, our players were upset. They wanted to know why did we work on all these things and not — why did we practice these things all week and not use them. They felt we did not give them the best opportunity to win the game.

So we had a team meeting and told them, hey guys, something was compromised, we’re not sure how. At that point it triggered an investigation."

 

Louisville said Wednesday that an assistant coach — who coached at Wake Forest previously — had received proprietary information from Elrod, but that the information had no benefit because Wake Forest didn’t run the plays the team was told about. And it’s apparent, at least from Wake Forest’s point of view, that the plays weren’t run because the school knew Louisville had the information.

Elrod moved to the booth in 2014 after he wasn’t retained as a coach. Clawson said he considered Elrod “almost as part of the team” because of his radio duties. When asked if he had spoken to Elrod since his dismissal, Clawson simply responded with a “no.”

Virginia Tech said Thursday that a former assistant coach had received inside info from Elrod before a game in 2014, though it didn’t believe that the info impacted the game. And, unlike Louisville, the Hokies apologized for the issue.

[IU Bud 445]

20 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Minnesota football boycotting to protest teammates’ suspensions

The entire Minnesota football team says it is boycotting all football activities until it gets satisfactory answers from the university about the suspension of 10 players this week.

The school suspended the players after an internal investigation into a sexual assault case. Police declined to charge any of the players, but the school suspended them based on internal regulations involving sexual assault allegations.

Full article at:

http://www.si.com/college-football/2016/12/15/minnesota-golden-gophers-boycott-protest-suspension-sexual-assault-update

It will be interesting if Northern Illinois is able to go in place of Minnesota..These things always seem to work out and the teams end up playing.  I believe Missouri  had a similar issue and they were able to settle the issue and play.  They have so much to lose if they don't play.  I will be surprised if a last minute deal is made, but it will be difficult.