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(2018) PG Darius Garland to Vandy

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HoosierAloha    29,887

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We have to hope he gets through the weekend without committing to Vandy. 

They'll both get through the Vandy visit. Vandy doesn't play by the SEC rules. I still stand by it being tough to be BMOC with a parent working at the university.

Hopefully, his dad and Romeo are enough to sway him to IU.

Let's hear the headlines!
Two Hoosier born players drive IU back to the top of college basketball


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Yogi's Picnic Basket    5,004

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Like I said in the Romeo thread, before this news came out btw, I am more worried about Vandy then U of L with Romeo, because whispers have gotten louder. I mentioned yesterday that U of L may soon be the 3rd school looking in for Romeo because they want for those 2 to play together is very real. They dont just make it newsworthy. There is a reason Vandy was even thought of seriously by Romeo and this weekend is wayyyy bigger than people think. Not with Romeo but Garland. If he decides Vandy is it before an IU visit which is highly doubtful we could lose both. I was assuming my "sources" were false then saw the Evan Daniels statement. Who knows they could end up at seperate schools I just dont see that happening as of now. The Shittu news was mentioned in with these guys too. He is visiting Vandy October 6-8th. 

Quickley committing to UK tonight will all but eliminate them from making a serious run at either for those worried about them which I never have been with these two. 

Time will tell but I have a feeling we get both. But I am more worried about Vandy w either than any other school right now.

 

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mdn82    25,456

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If Garland is committing and signing in November could we get a Romeo commitment at the same time?


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I would speculate that would lead one of our recruits to open things up. Been quiet rumblings of that, but you gotta believe that is most likely scenario. We have heard of kids on the current team but that is a huge class.


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HoosierMatty    424

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I would speculate that would lead one of our recruits to open things up. Been quiet rumblings of that, but you gotta believe that is most likely scenario. We have heard of kids on the current team but that is a huge class.


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Any idea of who would recommit? I hope it wouldn't be phinesee.

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Stuhoo    75,564

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17 minutes ago, Iugradman said:

If we lose not one but two five star recruits to friggin' Vanderbilt then it shows just how far we have fallen. What a slap in the face it would be.

I would be disappointed if a current recruit opens things back up. One would think Archie would have told them of his plans to recruit Garland and Langford.

 

We already have a very, very good 2018 class, and are primed to have an even better one in 2019...in Archie's first two years.

No matter whether we lose high-end recruits to Vandy or anywhere else, we haven't fallen and no one is slapping our face;  in fact, we're already well under way in our rise up.

 

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Stromboli    6,055

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I don't need anything to happen for me to know how far we've fallen.  The Mastodons beat us last year.  We gave up home-court for a first round out in the NIT.  There is a legitimate debate across the country as to whether or not our blue blood status should be revoked.  

Flip that.  We landed Archie, the prodigious young coach that turned down a bunch of offers to P5 schools until a worthy offer came along.  That we landed him legitimizes that we are still one of the programs with pull.  That we have an entire starting 5 of promising recruits already signed on for 2018 shows that we have not lost our luster.  

Recruiting isn't just some allocation of players to the best programs.  There are a ton of other factors.  The fact that we are even in on Romeo has everything to do with our proximity to his hometown.  Honestly there are a number of fortuitous circumstances that have put us in a good position with some great recruits.  On the same token, Vandy is very lucky that the Garlands moved to Nashville with their talented middle-schooler in time for him to connect to the city and have interest in the program.

I think the "slap in the face" comments are unwarranted.  The program earned its lessened statute in 1,000 decisions since 1987.  We're lucky that we have enough capital to work with to rebuild this thing.

I agree with you regarding the possible decommitment.  It puts a din on what is otherwise an upbeat time for the program.  It may even cause one of the Indiana recruits to leave, and create an instant reputation of Archie that could hurt him.  Just the same, I'm not going to view this in a vacuum, either.  There are a million factors.  Two months ago we had zero recruits, and weren't sure that we'd get any.  We watched Robbie Carmody, Darius Bazley, Brandon Johns, Cole Swider, and I'm sure others I'm forgetting choose different programs that we view lower on the totem pole.  We weren't desperate, but we weren't sure about anything.

Obviously, things changed in a hurry.  We started to adjust expectations somewhat from Top 100 guys to Top 200 guys, and the Aaron Henry offer came through.  At this point, we got swiftly assured that we're not dead.  Race.  Jerome.  Damezi.  Then Robert.  Then Jake.  You can't fault Archie for having these offers out there, and rather loose restrictions on acceptance.  He didn't know (just as we didn't) the strength we'd have.  Did we end up with 5 quick recruits while two 5* players are on the line?  You betcha.  But I can see why it happened.  And you have to wonder, if we were sitting here without the other 5 commits, would Darius and Romeo still see the luster with the program?  Maybe not.  

Dang I'm long winded.  Anyway, I think Archie is a straight shooter.  I think he does view success of the program as his #1 objective.  And I don't think he's going to work to achieve that objective by screwing over his players.  It's just a situation that we'll work through.

 

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Stuhoo    75,564

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2 minutes ago, Stromboli said:

I don't need anything to happen for me to know how far we've fallen.  The Mastodons beat us last year.  We gave up home-court for a first round out in the NIT.  There is a legitimate debate across the country as to whether or not our blue blood status should be revoked.  

Flip that.  We landed Archie, the prodigious young coach that turned down a bunch of offers to P5 schools until a worthy offer came along.  That we landed him legitimizes that we are still one of the programs with pull.  That we have an entire starting 5 of promising recruits already signed on for 2018 shows that we have not lost our luster.   

Dang I'm long winded.  Anyway, I think Archie is a straight shooter.  I think he does view success of the program as his #1 objective.  And I don't think he's going to work to achieve that objective by screwing over his players.  It's just a situation that we'll work through.

 

 

^^Stromboli's magnum opus!^^  Outstanding post.

 

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mdn82    25,456

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Any idea of who would recommit? I hope it wouldn't be phinesee.

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Honestly I would hate to speculate more than is out there, but it seems to be consensus of current players leaving and potential recruit opening up. Beyond that I have an idea but I am not 100% so speculation would be very counter intuitive to this discussion. But the way we are recruiting clearly for two people puts a spotlight on that theory.


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