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On 8/2/2019 at 11:43 AM, Hoosier Roots said:


Even though we’re not in that projection, they’re still predicting 8 B1G teams make it in which gives us a decent chance. It seems having a strong conference might benefit us, I think we beat out a team like Illinois or penn state for a spot.


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I wish and hope the Archie has great success, and am fully aware that these pre-season tourney projections are worthless, but if you told me a few years ago that going into his third season we would be “hoping” to beat out Illinois or Penn freaking State to get into the tourney I would have laughed out loud.  

This upcoming season is really difficult to figure out (a whole lot of if’s) but I can’t wait for it to start.

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On 8/7/2019 at 12:08 PM, Uspshoosier said:

And they are going to be in even worse trouble for violating their self imposed restrictions. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/sports.yahoo.com/amphtml/did-auburn-bruce-pearl-violate-173044150.html

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Underwood at Illinois signs another low-level 'sit one-play two": This time a 14ppg wing from Holy Cross, the worst team in the Patriot league last year:

JUST IN: #Illini will bring in Holy Cross transfer Jacob Grandison. 6'6 perimeter player who can make shots. Sit one to play two.

 

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Two commits in 24 hours for the Illini!

Underwood also bringing in this guy, for a four year ride:

Jermaine Hamlin
POS C HEIGHT6-9 WEIGHT 240
247Sports Composite® Not ranked
NATL. Rank  Not ranked

Had offers from North Dakota, South Dakota, Purdue-Fort Wayne, and Eastern Illinois 

 

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Two commits in 24 hours for the Illini!
Underwood also bringing in this guy, for a four year ride:
Jermaine Hamlin
POS C HEIGHT6-9 WEIGHT 240
247Sports Composite Not ranked
NATL. Rank  Not ranked
Had offers from North Dakota, South Dakota, Purdue-Fort Wayne, and Eastern Illinois 
 

I really love Underwood being at Illinois. To his credit he had his kids playing hard down the stretch.


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10 minutes ago, mdn82 said:


I really love Underwood being at Illinois. To his credit he had his kids playing hard down the stretch.


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^^No^^

Illinois lost six of their last eight, with the only two wins a pair of five point wins against a Northwestern team that lost 12 of their last 13.

 

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^^No^^
Illinois lost six of their last eight, with the only two wins a pair of five point wins against a Northwestern team that lost 12 of their last 13.
 

Lol I know but that was something posted more than once when our season was ending.


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Illinois 2017/18 season: 14-18

Illinois 2018/19 season: 12-21

They lost a couple of veterans, return basically the same team, and added a raw #46 composite big that was good, but not great in AAU ball. Also added a bunch of other guys that won't see the court. And yet somehow,  many pundits have Illinois as an NCAA tourney and upper half of the B1G team this coming season.

I mean, sure, anything's possible, but what the hell are people thinking?

 

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11 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

 

 

Awesome article, USPS.  So much of last year's issues came down to our inability to make shots.  It's so simple that it's stupid to say.  

 

I do think there's a lot of data that was left out from that methodology.  How old was the PG on the better teams?  What was the average composite ranking of the starting 5?  Don't kenpom and torvik have a luck component?  How did that compare?  Is the strength of schedule factored in?  

 

Also, I thought it was going to go into the actual pieces of the team.  Like, playing a small-ball line-up, or playing two bigs.  The value of a senior guard.  The value of having a OAD or two or 3 on a team.  I think there's much more to unpack.  

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1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

 

Illinois 2017/18 season: 14-18

Illinois 2018/19 season: 12-21

They lost a couple of veterans, return basically the same team, and added a raw #46 composite big that was good, but not great in AAU ball. Also added a bunch of other guys that won't see the court. And yet somehow,  many pundits have Illinois as an NCAA tourney and upper half of the B1G team this coming season.

 I mean, sure, anything's possible, but what the hell are people thinking?

 

Ayo and Frazier are a really nice back court. Sometimes that's just what gets it done in college ball with serviceable role players. I see Kofi listed as 7' and 290 lbs. That makes Bruno Fernando look undersized. If he can play, lots of BIG teams are in trouble.

It's a stretch listing them as top 25 with all those question marks but it's not a terrible gamble. But they just lost to a Netherlands B team that got trounced by DePaul in the following round so who the heck knows.

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13 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

Did Louisville play the pack line before Chris Mack?  Because this article talks about how well they did with it in year one instead of needing years to institute.  What's the difference from there to here?

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14 minutes ago, Josh said:

Did Louisville play the pack line before Chris Mack?  Because this article talks about how well they did with it in year one instead of needing years to institute.  What's the difference from there to here?

 

No, they did not play packline before Mack. They had a good defense the year before Mack; lots of athleticism and length to run the packline. Mack's defense added to their success.

For Louisville's team defensive efficiency rating:

  • Last season (Mack's 1st) they were 61st nationally
  • For the season before Mack, they were 69th nationally

For Indiana's team defensive efficiency rating:

  • Last season Indiana was 50th nationally
  • During Archie's first season they were 140th
  • The season before Archie they were 163rd

And, unlike that web arcticle, I pulled the stats straight from the actual source: https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/stat/defensive-efficiency

 

 

 

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No, they did not play packline before Mack. They had a good defense the year before Mack; lots of athleticism and length to run the packline. Mack's defense added to their success.
For Louisville's team defensive efficiency rating:
  • Last season (Mack's 1st) they were 61st nationally
  • For the season before Mack, they were 69th nationally
For Indiana's team defensive efficiency rating:
  • Last season Indiana was 50th nationally
  • During Archie's first season they were 140th
  • The season before Archie they were 163rd
And, unlike that web arcticle, I pulled the stats straight from the actual source: https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/stat/defensive-efficiency
 
 
 
Quit with the facts. It ruins their narrative

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