College Bball Thread

[Napleshoosier 9,808]

I got a good laugh out of this one. Crean still lacks any amount of self-reflection. Never change. 
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He’s a water boy and that will never change!


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[Uspshoosier 44,336]

I agree with the second paragraph but am still in the camp that does not like the schedule. As mentioned before we do not need a murderers row schedule but a few more 100-150 teams, roughly like Louisiana Tech, instead of the nearly 300 type teams  ,would be nice. Sagarin has our schedule so far ranked at 345. INDIANA has the 345th ranked SOS so far. Those cupcakes are too sweet.  I say this knowing it won’t matter al all if we make the tourney etc but I still would like the schedule tweaked.

24 of a possible 31 regular season games will be played against high major teams. From December through March 0 mid major or low major teams are on the schedule. It just happens all of our mid major to low major games are in November. For reference IU’s schedule is tracking like Maryland’s was last year which ended up in the top 30’s.


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[Uspshoosier 44,336]

Hurt is still a bad man, imo. Problem is he is 4th option there and they aren’t using his strengths. Carey, Jones, Stanley get all the ball time.


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His AAU teammates Zeke and Tyrell Terry are on fire as well. Terry is going to be a stud


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[DChoosier 7,056]

6 minutes ago, Napleshoosier said:

Kudos to Chris Mack. In his 2nd year! Amazing.


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It could still happen but I thought the NCAA was going to blow up Louisville and thought they would be “down” for at least five years. It is amazing/surprising that they have performed and recruited with such a cloud over their head.

Also kudos to Beard at Texas Tech. They made the Elite 8 in his second year, Champioship game in his third year and are ranked 12th this year. At Texas Tech! Think that is one of the most impressive stories of the last 5 years.

 

[Brass Cannon 24,068]

3 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

It could still happen but I thought the NCAA was going to blow up Louisville and thought they would be “down” for at least five years. It is amazing/surprising that they have performed and recruited with such a cloud over their head.

Also kudos to Beard at Texas Tech. They made the Elite 8 in his second year, Champioship game in his third year and are ranked 12th this year. At Texas Tech! Think that is one of the most impressive stories of the last 5 years.

 

Yet some people would have you believe that making the tourney in year 2 was unrealistic 

[cthomas 5,931]

25 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

I understand scheduling according to the lineup but 345th? It wasn’t that long ago that people were clamoring to add UK, AZ, Kansas type teams and now playing 100-150th ranked teams is deemed too tough.

EDIT: we are 344th, not 345th. Marist is 345th.

I get that we as fans want to see more competitive games. Pounding overmatched teams doesn't really do much for us. It's boring. But, I just don't think we know nearly as much about this team and what it needs as he does. And, I don't think he cares all that much how we feel about the scheduling. As others have noted, the schedule gets significantly tougher next year. I can see a bit of Coach Knight in CAM's approach to building a team.

[Class of '66 Old Fart 81,151]

Jon Rothstein -

Kentucky's Nate Sestina will miss approximately four weeks due to a fractured left wrist, per release. Had surgery this morning.

[WayneFleekHoosier 46,831]

Jon Rothstein -
Kentucky's Nate Sestina will miss approximately four weeks due to a fractured left wrist, per release. Had surgery this morning.

Cue Keion Brooks to the rescue.


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[Stuhoo 75,778]

9 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Jon Rothstein -

Kentucky's Nate Sestina will miss approximately four weeks due to a fractured left wrist, per release. Had surgery this morning.

Paging Keion Brooks.

 

[Class of '66 Old Fart 81,151]

Maybe Brooks is the one that broke Sestina's hand?  Just thinkin' out loud

[Alford Bailey 12,259]

2 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

 

So so true. Calipari is into year twelve, and will very likely not it get it done this year.

Nova, UVA? They get it. 

Archie gets it too, and the eventual results will show. You think we've played pretty well so far? Archie thinks our defense kinda sucks so far, and with the veteran group he has that's gonna be addressed and improved. Next year will be even better. I'll betcha that IU and Purdue are two of the top three or four teams in the B1G next year.

The order of progression:

1. Get old. 
2. Stay old.
3. Win a lot, and consistently.
4. And we will.

 

* with talent

[Old Friend 8,389]

2 hours ago, DChoosier said:

I agree with the second paragraph but am still in the camp that does not like the schedule. As mentioned before we do not need a murderers row schedule but a few more 100-150 teams, roughly like Louisiana Tech, instead of the nearly 300 type teams  ,would be nice. Sagarin has our schedule so far ranked at 345. INDIANA has the 345th ranked SOS so far. Those cupcakes are too sweet.  I say this knowing it won’t matter al all if we make the tourney etc but I still would like the schedule tweaked.

I'm really not saying I like it and I agree with you and everyone else in principle.   That said, I don't necessarily think it's hurting Indiana, either.   They've seen adversity, they've been allowed to get all 11 players quality time on the floor, they've sorted out lineups and positions, and they've learned how to play team defense, or at least that they still need lots of work on that.  All without a loss and all while also seeing how much they've improved. AND..how good they can be offensively if they attack and keep the ball moving.

In the end, Indiana will have played a top 40 schedule.  That's fine as far as I'm concerned.    I may be all by myself in this opinion, but in November, I am FAR more interested in watching OUR players and the overall team develop(ment) than I am the opponent and final score.  I have seen a lot of criticism of the schedule, and I suppose my point was "any given night."    These kids from Portland State and Stephen F. Austin are on scholarship, too and they can all play.   

Going 7-0 against cupcakes (which we will) is fine as long as some are decent, and some have been decent.  Indiana is currently #31 in Sagarin, and for reference's sake, there are 12 teams in the top 31 (including Indiana) who have not yet played a Sagarin top 50 team.   Included on that list are Maryland, North Carolina, and Michigan.  Indiana's not alone.  9 other schools in the top 31 have schedule strength in the 300's (Texas Tech, Louisville, and Kentucky among them).  It'll all work out, and I'd rather see our still young team grow into a better unit while they win.  I guess I believe it's all part of a longer term process because when we start winning, we'll start playing in better pre-conference events and by proxy against better teams.   I just don't see the early schedule as detrimental as some do.  

** For what it's worth, the Purdue's are #64 in Sagarin and they also have a SoS in the 300's.  I sure wouldn't want to trade with them.  

[DChoosier 7,056]

1 hour ago, cthomas said:

I get that we as fans want to see more competitive games. Pounding overmatched teams doesn't really do much for us. It's boring. But, I just don't think we know nearly as much about this team and what it needs as he does. And, I don't think he cares all that much how we feel about the scheduling. As others have noted, the schedule gets significantly tougher next year. I can see a bit of Coach Knight in CAM's approach to building a team.

We will see what we have starting Tuesday (I’m going to the game and can’t wait). Tuesday starts a stretch of 7 games that will be challenging and fun (I hope) to watch. Just wish we had a 100% Rob.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,232]

He's over the hill.  He's lost his edge.  Fire Coach K.

I kind of wonder if he’s going to change his recruiting tactics before he retires.


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[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,232]

 
So so true. Calipari is into year twelve, and will very likely not it get it done this year.
Nova, UVA? They get it. 
Archie gets it too, and the eventual results will show. You think we've played pretty well so far? Archie thinks our defense kinda sucks so far, and with the veteran group he has that's gonna be addressed and improved. Next year will be even better. I'll betcha that IU and Purdue are two of the top three or four teams in the B1G next year.
The order of progression:

1. Get old. 
2. Stay old.
3. Win a lot, and consistently.
4. And we will.

 

You have to collect talent and build at the same time. That’s how UVa won last year. That’s how Nova won twice. That’s how UNC has won.


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[Old Friend 8,389]

1 hour ago, cthomas said:

I get that we as fans want to see more competitive games. Pounding overmatched teams doesn't really do much for us. It's boring. But, I just don't think we know nearly as much about this team and what it needs as he does. And, I don't think he cares all that much how we feel about the scheduling. As others have noted, the schedule gets significantly tougher next year. I can see a bit of Coach Knight in CAM's approach to building a team.

In bold....this is 100% incorrect.  

In red, only if you watch only for the score.   That's absolutely your prerogative; but it's not boring if you're watching our players and our team develop rather than the score.

In purple, disagree with this, too.  I think we know a lot about this team.  What don't you know?  Without the crystal ball stuff like "what will happen if ____," what don't we know?  What haven't you seen?   Serious question.  

[Hoosier987 1,029]

I can tell you that this year’s team plays much better collectively than last year’s team. 

[Uspshoosier 44,336]

You have to collect talent and build at the same time. That’s how UVa won last year. That’s how Nova won twice. That’s how UNC has won.

 

 

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Talent comes in many forms. Talent can be a top 50 kid that makes an impact right away, talent can be a top 50 kid that only plays 12 min a game and 7 pts his freshman year and then gets stronger and older his later years, talent can be a kid that was committed to UC Davis until peach jam ranked in the 300’s then wins peach jam finals mvp and reopens his commitment and eventually contributes his freshman year on a national title team, talent can be a kid the kid ranked over 100 that works his butt off and by the time he is a senior his on the wooden watch.

 

 

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[Hovadipo 52,984]

Jimmy Dykes calling college basketball again just feels right. 

[Class of '66 Old Fart 81,151]

4 minutes ago, Old Friend said:

In purple, disagree with this, too.  I think we know a lot about this team.  What don't you know?  Without the crystal ball stuff like "what will happen if ____," what don't we know?  What haven't you seen?   Serious question.  

We haven't seen how they respond to getting behind 10-12 pts. have we?