Can somebody refute our apparantly terrible graduation rate?

[Magnanimous 4,399]

It's a year old, but there is an article on Stanford's scout site breaking down the graduation rate for every BCS conference team in both football and basketball. Now this was done in March of 2013, so I'm assuming the 2009 graduates were not counted yet, but apparently our basketball program's graduation rate was (is) 43%, making it the 7th worst in the country (ironically Wisconsin was 6th worst in the country...so I don't know how valid this is). But anyway, here's the link:

http://stanford.scout.com/2/1273612.html

[TheWatShot 13,335]

How could Wisconsin be 6th worst? They never have anyone leave for the NBA and Bo Ryan doesn't let anyone transfer without a fight. 

[brwnlw 6]

That all started with Kelvin Sampson. Under Knight, we had one of the best in the country.

 

[JuwantGrimeShakes? 533]

That all started with Kelvin Sampson. Under Knight, we had one of the best in the country.

I agree. I'd love to see it broken down by year to see the difference. Also, why each didn't graduate. 

[Magnanimous 4,399]

That all started with Kelvin Sampson. Under Knight, we had one of the best in the country.

 

While we all know that the team's graduation rate under Sampson was terrible, this was a measure of period of multiple years and he was our coach for one and a half seasons. Also it didnt factor in transfers, so some guys like Crawford didn't count towards this.

[Ryno6284 2,517]

I think CTC's first 3 yrs. would be almost a zero percent rate, since he had no upperclassmen back then.

 

 

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[indianato 157]

This would be for the classes that enrolled from 2002 - 2005.

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[mdn82 25,456]

"This analysis covers graduation rates for the classes that reached the end of their six-year graduation windows in the years 2008 through 2011."

 

That is why it is at 43%.  Only reason it is that high is because of 2009-2011.  

[ted hughes 0]

It really does not matter at this point as its all messed up with sampson  and players being let go and the players leaving early so does it make a difference at this time let crean do his thing.

[Andrew-_-44 25]

There's definitely something fishy going, seeing as how both California and Wisconsin have awful rates. Since this is a Stanford "study," there is probably some exaggeratedly inaccurate rates here. Think about it. Cal and Wisky are good schools, but Cal is Stanford's rival and Wisconsin is frequently Stanford's rose bowl opponent. I think these are fake because there is no way Cal and Wisconsin are realistically that low.


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[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

Here's another source that supports Wisconsin's numbers. It's only for the tournament teams this past March unfortunately. But it also uses the NCAA more forgiving Graduation Success Rate calculation. http://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2014/03/17/ncaa-men-basketball-tournament-teams-see-record-graduation-rates/P3QxfXSFvfLBDJUmDDmLML/story.html


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[Myrmidon76 614]

Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he'll never know hunger again. Give a man a chart and he becomes as confused as the rest of us. Teach a man to make charts and he can make them show whatever he wants them to.

 

 

I don't buy into these things that much. We know who is graduating. We know we have a tremendous APR score. Once the Sampson years work their way through, I expect IU to be right near the top of the Big Ten in terms of academic success in its athletic programs.

[Magnanimous 4,399]

There's definitely something fishy going, seeing as how both California and Wisconsin have awful rates. Since this is a Stanford "study," there is probably some exaggeratedly inaccurate rates here. Think about it. Cal and Wisky are good schools, but Cal is Stanford's rival and Wisconsin is frequently Stanford's rose bowl opponent. I think these are fake because there is no way Cal and Wisconsin are realistically that low.


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Well you have to remember that while Cal is a fantastic school, it doesn't take the same approach to football recruiting as Stanford or ND. This is the school that during that measured time frame had Desean Jackson and Marshawn Lynch suiting up. Jackson's an alleged gang member and Marshawn Lynch spent his entire rookie signing bonus on skee ball at a Buffalo Dave and Busters.

[indianato 157]

Numbers are accurate. Just remember what we were bringing in 2002-2005. These numbers will fade.

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[Feaskb01 130]

Ya think it is a coincidence that the only schools that publish articles like this are always top notch academic schools like Stanford?