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Fire or ‘Way to Go!’ Tom Allen?

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20 minutes ago, rcs29 said:

Just remember it could be worse. Rutgers is suppose to be a football school.

https://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/2019/10/rutgers-hits-rock-bottom-why-scarlet-knights-humiliating-loss-to-indiana-is-programs-lowest-moment-yet.html

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Rock bottom is 2 weeks from now when they lose to a school whose head coach works from a hospital bed.

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24 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

Losing in Bloomington is their lowest moment?  Their home is in New Jersey, I'm sure they'll have worse moments; like leaving Bloomington to go back to New Jersey.

Best post of the day!

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2 hours ago, rcs29 said:

Just remember it could be worse. Rutgers is suppose to be a football school.

https://www.nj.com/rutgersfootball/2019/10/rutgers-hits-rock-bottom-why-scarlet-knights-humiliating-loss-to-indiana-is-programs-lowest-moment-yet.html

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That's two schools for whom we've created the darkest/lowest moment in football history. ... When we beat Ohio State in 1987,- and we didn't just beat them, we whipped their a$$es -- in Columbus, no less -- the then-coach of the Nuts called it the darkest day in the history of Ohio State football! 

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Louisville was 2-10 last year. And they just beat the #19 team on the road(albeit an overrated team.) Hung 62 on them. Scott Satterfield will coach that team to a bowl in year 1. Just like how Chris Mack had success in year 1. At a place like freaking Louisville, they got through a ton of turmoil and bounce back in 1 year. At IU, it’s always a 4 year rebuilding plan.


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Good quarterback invariably = bowl game appearances.

That’s true at IU or pretty much any power 5 school this side of Rutgers.

Wilson looked quite good with Suds.

Since then with Zander, Lagow, and Ramsey there’s been sadness.

Now, with four years of Penix, we’re looking at four straight bowl appearances.

So there.

 

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Michigan State is overrated and not even ranked anymore. We had them on the ropes and Allen showed an inability to make winning decisions/calls. Whether that's a call for firing or not is another discussion but let's not hype up Sparty as an OSU/Wiscy type of team. That should have been a W for us.

1) not hyping them up as an OSU type team 2) I get it it was a frustrating loss 3) still no reason to.m instigate the decision to fire the coach


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Louisville was 2-10 last year. And they just beat the #19 team on the road(albeit an overrated team.) Hung 62 on them. Scott Satterfield will coach that team to a bowl in year 1. Just like how Chris Mack had success in year 1. At a place like freaking Louisville, they got through a ton of turmoil and bounce back in 1 year. At IU, it’s always a 4 year rebuilding plan.


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What do you mean at a place like Louisville? They’ve been in a bowl every year since 2010 other than last year. They won 8 or 9 games every year since joining the ACC except last year.


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5 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

Good quarterback invariably = bowl game appearances.

That’s true at IU or pretty much any power 5 school this side of Rutgers.

Wilson looked quite good with Suds.

Since then with Zander, Lagow, and Ramsey there’s been sadness.

Now, with four years of Penix, we’re looking at four straight bowl appearances.

So there.

 

If Penix continues to produce, I'm not sure we get four years with him...good problem to have.

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9 hours ago, Walking Boot of Doom said:


1) not hyping them up as an OSU type team 2) I get it it was a frustrating loss 3) still no reason to.m instigate the decision to fire the coach


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Yeah I've settled down from my initial stance of firing him but I still need to see how this season ends to solidify my opinion of him. I didn't like that he showed fear and panic when in the driver's seat but like others have said let's hope that was a learning experience and it doesn't happen again.

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6 hours ago, MemphisHoosier said:

If Penix continues to produce, I'm not sure we get four years with him...good problem to have.

An IU football fan who thinks we may only have someone 3 years? You don't hear that every decade...

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7 hours ago, MemphisHoosier said:

If Penix continues to produce, I'm not sure we get four years with him...good problem to have.

I’m very happy we have him, but he’d have to make significant and unforeseen leaps in development beyond his current trajectory to be considering leaving early. 

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In my opinion, Tom Allen is not a good coach for the job.

Also in my opinion, you should always give a football coach four years to evaluate where the program is.

My first opinion being in conflict with the other, side with #2 because I am also of the opinion that my opinion is nothing more than that AND it can be wrong -- and therefore the bigger the sample space to evaluate, the better. 

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Yeah I've settled down from my initial stance of firing him but I still need to see how this season ends to solidify my opinion of him. I didn't like that he showed fear and panic when in the driver's seat but like others have said let's hope that was a learning experience and it doesn't happen again.

Reasonable and fair and I agree.


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18 hours ago, Fkfootball1 said:

Louisville was 2-10 last year. And they just beat the #19 team on the road(albeit an overrated team.) Hung 62 on them. Scott Satterfield will coach that team to a bowl in year 1. Just like how Chris Mack had success in year 1. At a place like freaking Louisville, they got through a ton of turmoil and bounce back in 1 year. At IU, it’s always a 4 year rebuilding plan.


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They also dont play half the schedule at UL..lol

Wow.. at big bad Wake Forest. 

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It is not a stretch to say the game at Maryland is the biggest in Allen’s tenure at IU. A loss leaves very little margin for error to make a bowl and will cause fans to roll their eyes and say “same old IU.” He has to start winning some 50/50 and even 40/60 games to have any success.

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1 hour ago, Iugradman said:

It is not a stretch to say the game at Maryland is the biggest in Allen’s tenure at IU. A loss leaves very little margin for error to make a bowl and will cause fans to roll their eyes and say “same old IU.” He has to start winning some 50/50 and even 40/60 games to have any success.

That we can all agree. Winning this game (and others like them) should be the next level of progression for IUFB. 

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I could see a big wave of support if Allen was able to win 2 or 3 of the @Maryland, @Nebraska, vs. purdoodoo games to get to a bowl game. If we reach 7 or 8 wins before a bowl I could see an extension.

However, if he fails to make a bowl game with 4 legit chances I could see a lot of people wanting a change. This is the time that “same ol Indiana” falls flat on its face. Can he “breakthrough” and do something that hasn’t been done in forever?!


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