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Ed Schilling Leaving, Mike Roberts Arriving

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Doesn't this really smell of something bad happening with Schilling. Not having a known assistant on the recruiting trail seems really bad. I don't know, but with the timing, something stinks. (and it's not me)

I don’t know about “bad happening with Schilling” but it was certainly unplanned. Either something happened forcing the move from Archie or Something happened where Schilling was done.

The timing of the VanEyl stuff is just too coincidental not to be a part of all this.

Does this kid actually have an offer? Lol.


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20 minutes ago, ap2345 said:

Apparently Archie has talked to Jim Shannon in recent days about the position.


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You mean pushing 60 years old Jim Shannon?  That would.....surprise me.

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24 minutes ago, VO5 said:

Why this obsession with a former IU player? Many are not qualified to do what some of you want. If you want recruiting, who has the pedigree of all the former IU players mentioned to bring in top 50 guys? Many kids nowadays will point to Romeo over guys like Guyton, Jeffries, etc. as former IU players they know. If you say they know the state, that may be true, but we’ve had zero issue recruiting our own state. As far as player development, which former IU player has any sort of pedigree developing players and getting the maximum out of them? 

I think some IU fans have this disillusioned belief that former IU players coming back will somehow magically turn our program around, even when they don’t have the pedigree. Give me a guy that has out of state connections that is an ace recruiter, or someone that has a history of developing players. We don’t need a former IU player and it’s likely we will not go that route. 

Guyton is absolutely qualified to be an assistant coach at IU.

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4 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

Guyton is absolutely qualified to be an assistant coach at IU.

How so?

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1 minute ago, VO5 said:

How so?

He won championships as a semi-pro coach.  He was director of player development at Northwestern and is currently an assistant at Loyola Maryland.  I'd happily take that as an assistant.

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27 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

He won championships as a semi-pro coach.  He was director of player development at Northwestern and is currently an assistant at Loyola Maryland.  I'd happily take that as an assistant.

Meh semi-pro and player development at Northwestern aren’t great. Northwestern took a huge step back last year. Assistant at Loyola is fine and all but there are much more qualified personnel out there. Take away the fact that he played at IU and look at his resume. You still want him here?

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1 hour ago, bigrod said:

I wouldn't mind either of these, but Moye is already working with players on skills development. The guy absolutely loves IU too. Seems like he would be a great fit.

You know my thoughts! LOL!

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10 minutes ago, VO5 said:

Meh semi-pro and player development at Northwestern aren’t great. Northwestern took a huge step back last year. Assistant at Loyola is fine and all but there are much more qualified personnel out there. Take away the fact that he played at IU and look at his resume. You still want him here?

The fact he played at IU is an absolute plus.  Frankly we've turned away from IU guys long enough and it hasn't gone well; sure can't hurt to get an IU guy involved as an assistant.

 

EDIT:  After looking I wouldn't want Jeffries so it's not like being an IU player was the deciding factor.

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Apparently Archie has talked to Jim Shannon in recent days about the position.


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By talk to him do you mean for input? Or to hire? I would definitely reach out for his recommendations.


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This new coach has to be able to recruit. That is the lifeblood of a program. There are no “IU guys” other than Fife who have experience successfully recruiting elite level talent. Just get the best candidate available.
We agree on something! Lol

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4 hours ago, Demo said:

You mean pushing 60 years old Jim Shannon?  That would.....surprise me.

Shannon has won over 600 games as HC. Known to be excellent X&O guy. Well respected throughout the coaching fraternity. Well liked by players. Why not? Recruiting questions outside of Indiana but no doors closed in-state.

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8 minutes ago, MoyeNeeded said:

Shannon has won over 600 games as HC. Known to be excellent X&O guy. Well respected throughout the coaching fraternity. Well liked by players. Why not? Recruiting questions outside of Indiana but no doors closed in-state.

Not downgrading Shannon as a Coach at in any way. The man’s had a great run and has earned his reputation. I’m sure he could bring some positive benefit. It’s just hard , really hard, for me to see someone at the point he is in his career wanting to take on a collaborative role like that.  If Miller wants him and Shannon wants it, it’s ok with me. The HC is 100% accountable. He should have who he wants. Just seems like an odd fit.

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Not sure if he's interested or being considered, but Chris Hawkins has done a nice job at Crispus Attucks (state champ, sectional champ, semi-state in his first 3 years).  He's had a lot of IU ties over the years.  Some of you may remember him as Birdman on other/previous sites.  

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