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Aaron

IU Baseball: NCAA Tournament With Short Ride to Louisville

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You guys all disagreed and wanted Louisville early and this is what you get. I get both sides but I always say avoid the best team as long as possible as shown last two years when we got blasted by UK to end season in afternoon game, while last year we made it the extra round in Regional's by facing and knocking out (albeit a very strong one) the three seed first. Illinois St. may have teed off on us as well but they have an awful bullpen that would of given us a chance to win a shootout while UL shut us down enough as soon as we chased their starter which was difference. 

Either way very encouraged for future and were going to lose to UL at some point today most likely and encouraged we battled back. Also the fact we are not far behind UL in talent now and can compete with them shows how far we have come as just over half a decaded ago we did not belong on same field.

Not having Gorski today really bit us in the butt. We will never know but if Gorski is in RF and Ashley is in his normal spot at second, Bunnell never is in position to make that error that got UL out of its offensive slumber for the win and led to the four run inning. Still, Bunnell should have made that play and that was really the difference as it directly led to a hit and run that put runners at the corners with 0 outs instead of 0 on 2 outs. We may very well have lost anyways but it certainly was the impetus UL needed to wake up a very struggling offense.

Since Mercer has developed talent unlike the previous regime we have a bright future with Ashley, Richardson, Barr and Dunham on offense and the arms of Bierman and Sommer back who are ready to move into weekend roles as Saturday and Sunday starters just fine. Just need to find that true Friday Night guy we have lacked since Kyle Hart graduated and we should be good to keep this last decade of success rolling.  

Mercer deserves tons of credit for first off taking a flawed team to a Big Ten Title and another Regional as we now expect as a program year in and year out now. Secondly, I really think Mercer wants to use the small ball approach Louisville has that works so well. He is just smart enough to recognize that Lemonis built this team on power and rather then try to change things up to much and rebuild, he took power ball for now and ran with it with even more success before implementing his own system in the future.  

To me more than anything this shows we have the right guy in charge and should at least maintain our status as a highly ranked Big Ten team. While, I would be more than OK with that and not complain for a second, Mercer also has a chance with the right breaks to make us the Louisville of the Big Ten year in and out if he can keep some of the guys UL is plucking from our state home. I feel the program had hit a ceiling with Lemonis and I am was not sure it could be maintained. With Mercer, we are good to move full speed forward and maybe even improve.

Lastly, shout out to the 1,000 or so IU fans at each game who competed loud and proud with UL when we played today and took over the stadium against the other two teams all weekend. We, certainly have grown the fan base tremendously the last ten years to the point where we have by far the strongest baseball following in the Big Ten outside Nebraska and it should only keep growing if the team keeps succeeding.      

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3 hours ago, TheWatShot said:

I said this yesterday, but if you're going to take shots at any IU athletic program, baseball is about the last one you should aim for. We've elevated our baseball program way above where it was 10 years ago.

From Chronic Hoosier -- The past decade of IU baseball:

7 of IU's 8 NCAA tourney appearances

3 of IU's 7 B1G titles

3 of IU's 4 B1G tournament titles

IU's only appearance in the College World Series.

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A very costly ejection for  L'ville pitcher McEvene.  Apparently it's an automatic 4-game suspension and no appeal permitted per Eric Crawford of WDRB Louisville.

Thought it was kind of a bad call but didn’t like how the announcers kept going on about it. Did Uof6 not get a warning earlier in the game for arguing balls and strikes?


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15 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:


Thought it was kind of a bad call but didn’t like how the announcers kept going on about it. Did Uof6 not get a warning earlier in the game for arguing balls and strikes?


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No warning. Ump was just terrible. Called ball 3 on strike 3 then proceeded to toss UL pitcher for saying ‘thats terrible’ and he gets automatic suspension. Then new pitcher throws ball 4 called strike 3 as makeup call. 

Ump screwed both teams big with terrible calls and should be in trouble but doubt NCAA does anything. 

Either way fun IU UL rivalry keeps building in baseball and shoutout to our fans who went toe to toe with them in fun neutral tourney atmosphere and made tons of noise all weekend.

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No warning. Ump was just terrible. Called ball 3 on strike 3 then proceeded to toss UL pitcher for saying ‘thats terrible’ and he gets automatic suspension. Then new pitcher throws ball 4 called strike 3 as makeup call. 
Ump screwed both teams big with terrible calls and should be in trouble but doubt NCAA does anything. 
Either way fun IU UL rivalry keeps building in baseball and shoutout to our fans who went toe to toe with them in fun neutral tourney atmosphere and made tons of noise all weekend.

That was called a ball with Lloyd on the mound earlier in the game. There were some bad calls both ways. Regardless, you can’t put yourself in that position if you’re THE closer or any other important piece.


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16 hours ago, Aaron said:

No warning. Ump was just terrible. Called ball 3 on strike 3 then proceeded to toss UL pitcher for saying ‘thats terrible’ and he gets automatic suspension. Then new pitcher throws ball 4 called strike 3 as makeup call. 

Ump screwed both teams big with terrible calls and should be in trouble but doubt NCAA does anything. 

Either way fun IU UL rivalry keeps building in baseball and shoutout to our fans who went toe to toe with them in fun neutral tourney atmosphere and made tons of noise all weekend.

I thought the ball 3 was most definitely a ball. It looked like it was at least a foot off the plate on TV, maybe more. I would not have been surprised if it was called a strike, but it definitely looked like a ball. (Side note, these games were my annual reminder as to why I have a hard time watching a lot of college baseball as the strike zone seems to consistently be called only marginally better than little league.) The bummer for me is I have yet to see the last pitch. My stream cut out and went to a blue screen, then to the ESPN logo for several minutes right before the pitch. It didn't come back until the teams were separated in the outfield. I didn't know until last night that it was a controversial call and there was a bit of a ruckus? Is there video available anywhere? I tried to watch the replay stream and got the same result. 

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Now that season is over who can we expect to leave early from this years roster?

I would assume Matt Gorski is gone. Then maybe Gordon and Saalfrank?

I know Lloyd, Milto, Fineman have exhausted eligibility so will be gone as well. Will be a number of holes to fill on offense and possible SP. I would assume Bierman slides into one of those SP slots. Main bats back are Barr, Dunham, Bradley and Richardson

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Gorski taken 57th by Pirates in second rd of MLB Draft. Means he should be an Indianapolis Indian within a few yrs.

Not there was much doubt and I never projected him as part of next year’s roster but being drafted this high he has 0% chance of returning. 

Although thats a bit high not shocked given his range and defense in OF as well as good hitting and power numbers at plate.

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On 6/3/2019 at 11:27 AM, TXHoosierDaddy said:

Now that season is over who can we expect to leave early from this years roster?

I would assume Matt Gorski is gone. Then maybe Gordon and Saalfrank?

I know Lloyd, Milto, Fineman have exhausted eligibility so will be gone as well. Will be a number of holes to fill on offense and possible SP. I would assume Bierman slides into one of those SP slots. Main bats back are Barr, Dunham, Bradley and Richardson

Looks like Salfrank and Gordon both gone as well. 6th round selections. 

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Hopefully Vecrumba doesn’t get drafted too high. He looks like he could be a similar player to Gorski. Big power potential. Mercer has a number of good prospects coming. Definitely will be interesting to see who takes the Friday, Saturday, Sunday starting pitching spots.


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This is great for iu baseball for the future and shows how much better mercer develops talent then lemonis and will make highly ranked recruits want to play for him. These are lemonis’ guys but lemo couldn't develop them and Mercer did.

We had so many draft picks because we had a combination of lemo guys who were finally developed and got drafted a yr later than they should of (i.e lloyd) and newly eligible guys like gorski.

Betting man I say obviously of the guys left with eligibility gorski, saalfrank and gordon are gone. Beauchamp is obviously gone and I believe quit the team mid year. Bradley I think leaves since he already graduated. Lloyd and milto are out of eligibilty.

I do think Barr and Dunham come back for one more yr and could really get better and be high picks with mercer working with them and as sophomores still have leverage next yr when drafted as juniors. I always forget that you can be drafted as a sophomore if birthday within 45 days of draft. We really need these two back and think we get them.

This draft should easily make recruiting easier for Mercer going forward and iu a very attractive program.

Also Bierman and Sommer should be very good as two of the weekend starters and should only get better with new staff. Just still need to find that true Friday Night guy we have lacked since Kyle Hart. 

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18 minutes ago, Aaron said:

This is great for iu baseball for the future and shows how much better mercer develops talent then lemonis and will make highly ranked recruits want to play for him. These are lemonis’ guys but lemo couldn't develop them and Mercer did.

We had so many draft picks because we had a combination of lemo guys who were finally developed and got drafted a yr later than they should of (i.e lloyd) and newly eligible guys like gorski.

Betting man I say obviously of the guys left with eligibility gorski, saalfrank and gordon are gone. Beauchamp is obviously gone and I believe quit the team mid year. Bradley I think leaves since he already graduated. Lloyd and milto are out of eligibilty.

I do think Barr and Dunham come back for one more yr and could really get better and be high picks with mercer working with them and as sophomores still have leverage next yr when drafted as juniors. I always forget that you can be drafted as a sophomore if birthday within 45 days of draft. We really need these two back and think we get them.

This draft should easily make recruiting easier for Mercer going forward and iu a very attractive program.

Also Bierman and Sommer should be very good as two of the weekend starters and should only get better with new staff. Just still need to find that true Friday Night guy we have lacked since Kyle Hart. 

Not sure I agree with the bulleted part just based on this year. Do I indeed think Mercer is a better developer of talent than Lemonnis, absolutely. But its hard to read into one year and give all the credit to Mercer. Most of the bats actually were worse this year than last. Gorski hit .356 last year almost 90 points better than last year. Lloyd hit for better average last year just had more power this time around. Bradley hit 50 points higher last year. Lloyd and Milto were out of eligibility so teams didn't have to worry about them going back to school. Gorski was already a high draft pick regardless. Lemonis deserves credit for this as well. in the long-term though, Mercer is definitely the guy and I am confident he will exceed what Lemo did. 

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Barr coming back is huge. With Mercer developing players correctly I would not be surprised if Barr comes back and hits .300 with 20 HR’s. I expect Dunham to announce as a sophomore he is coming back and have similar improvement. Both should be top 10 rd picks in 2020. Nice offensive core with Barr, Dunham, Richardson and Ashley. 

Expect to lose other 8 drafted players. 

 

 

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