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(2020) SG Trey Galloway To IU

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18 hours ago, Brass Cannon said:

To recruiting services which as we all know are fairly accurate. Or are we already back to hoping for diamonds in the rough 

Are 4 star & upward trending 3 star recruits with multiple D1 offers really "diamonds in the rough"? 

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Yeah I don't think Leal and Galloway are diamonds in the rough. As Stuhoo said, look at their offer list. Very prominent programs are after these kids. 

I feel pretty good that Leal, Galloway, and Cross are big ten contributors and am not worried about them. I only worry that there doesn't seem to be a great chance we will land a point guard in this class and that would be two classes in a row without a point guard. I know Lander is 2021, but that is nowhere near a certainty. 

Still in a wait and see with Archie, love his organization overall and what he is trying to do. Just have to see on the court success or none of this matters. 

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21 hours ago, Brass Cannon said:

They apparently have higher praise for the guys above him that our competitors are getting multiple of. 

I want Trey make no mistake. And I would love Leal as well but when a coach getting paid 3 million a year and is only leading for 2 sub 100 Indiana kids. I’m going to call that underwhelming. 

Now if he delivers all change my tune. But something will need to change for that if to change to a when. 

Thats a fair point.

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Which power 5 schools in the Midwest don't recruit hard against us?! Or each other for that matter? Everyone recruits hard against everyone else. It's the name of the game, dude.
And he didn't "take" anyone from Bloomington. Musa Jallow wasn't a real priority for us. If anything, IU gave him away... your welcome, OSU, for the whopping 2.9 points per game he gave you last year.
The only thing obvious here is how much of an immature troll you are. Why it's taken me so long to block you boggles my mind. Anyways, nice knowin' ya, FK... try to enjoy puberty when it finally hits, kiddo.


For some reason. I’m not upset about this. I’m not a troll. I’m just highly opinionated. Don’t be so soft.


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It’s not that I’m an Archie hater. I just think Holtman is a lot better. I thought that 2 years ago, and I think that now. He was the guy I wanted from the get go. Him or Chris Mack. I wanted guys from the Big East. Not a guy from an A-10 school. Think about that. We hired a coach from the Atlantic 10. It says a lot about the state of Indiana basketball. Archie did some good things at Dayton, but he’s struggling trying to adjust to this level of basketball. Offensively, he doesn’t have much of a clue. He has failed to address how important having good shooting means in this conference.


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On 7/17/2019 at 2:46 PM, Brass Cannon said:

And if we get some of those 25-75 then I will change my tune but we whiffed on like 6 of those last year. If Archie seals the deal then so be it. 

Heard the same talk about Crean as well. Talking to 50 top players doesn’t guarantee you get any. 

And getting any doesn't guarantee success.   The pieces have to fit; and high school ranking or "stars" play zero role in that.   I want kids who fit Archie's system and I want a group of them who can play together and keep building that formula year after year after year.  I could not care less where a kid is ranked.  If he's a top 25 kid, odds are his eyes are on a bigger prize than college, anyway.  Get old and stay old.  Indiana was its most successful that way, and several good programs are now.

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17 minutes ago, Old Friend said:

And getting any doesn't guarantee success.   The pieces have to fit; and high school ranking or "stars" play zero role in that.   I want kids who fit Archie's system and I want a group of them who can play together and keep building that formula year after year after year.  I could not care less where a kid is ranked.  If he's a top 25 kid, odds are his eyes are on a bigger prize than college, anyway.  Get old and stay old.  Indiana was its most successful that way, and several good programs are now.

 

If we are recruiting against Villanova, MSU, and Virginia and getting some of those kids we’re gonna win a whole bunch of games.

 

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They might have higher praise for the guys above him but Rivals just had a premium article on schools with must get players and according to rivals they considered Galloway or Leal(if not both) a must-get for IU. Regardless of where they had him ranked they feel they are important recruits for IU.  

 

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I didn’t read the article but is it possible they are must gets because they are the most likely and are getting the lion’s share of attention from the staff? Seems like a self fulfilling scenario, a no **** type of comment

 

I have been a huge Galloway fan and hope we get him and think Leal could help us too but perhaps need Galloway’s competitiveness the most.

 

As I’ve always said, I just want Archie to get the kids he wants and not to have to settle for options H, I, and J.

 

I will never understand the strategy of leaving 2 scholarships open when we have a kid on roster that may never play college ball and his rosters have historically been riddled with injuries. People can spin those open scholarships in a positive way if they want but I would hope not to hear those same people use injuries as an excuse if things don’t come together

 

 

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15 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

I didn’t read the article but is it possible they are must gets because they are the most likely and are getting the lion’s share of attention from the staff? Seems like a self fulfilling scenario, a no **** type of comment

 

I have been a huge Galloway fan and hope we get him and think Leal could help us too but perhaps need Galloway’s competitiveness the most.

 

As I’ve always said, I just want Archie to get the kids he wants and not to have to settle for options H, I, and J.

 

I will never understand the strategy of leaving 2 scholarships open when we have a kid on roster that may never play college ball and his rosters have historically been riddled with injuries. People can spin those open scholarships in a positive way if they want but I would hope not to hear those same people use injuries as an excuse if things don’t come together

 

 

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Yeah we are going into next year with 8 scholarship players who have played a college basketball game. We are ridiculously thin and if we have an injury to Phinisee look poised to have difficulty again 

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18 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

I didn’t read the article but is it possible they are must gets because they are the most likely and are getting the lion’s share of attention from the staff? Seems like a self fulfilling scenario, a no **** type of comment

 

I have been a huge Galloway fan and hope we get him and think Leal could help us too but perhaps need Galloway’s competitiveness the most.

 

As I’ve always said, I just want Archie to get the kids he wants and not to have to settle for options H, I, and J.

 

I will never understand the strategy of leaving 2 scholarships open when we have a kid on roster that may never play college ball and his rosters have historically been riddled with injuries. People can spin those open scholarships in a positive way if they want but I would hope not to hear those same people use injuries as an excuse if things don’t come together

 

 

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I know he said he'd like to have a couple open, but they sure seemed to be TRYING to fill one or both of them.

I agree that open scholarships are wasted opportunities. Red-shirt a guy or something, just letting them go to waste doesn't make sense to me. 

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It’s not that I’m an Archie hater. I just think Holtman is a lot better. I thought that 2 years ago, and I think that now. He was the guy I wanted from the get go. Him or Chris Mack. I wanted guys from the Big East. Not a guy from an A-10 school. Think about that. We hired a coach from the Atlantic 10. It says a lot about the state of Indiana basketball. Archie did some good things at Dayton, but he’s struggling trying to adjust to this level of basketball. Offensively, he doesn’t have much of a clue. He has failed to address how important having good shooting means in this conference.


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2 hours ago, Fkfootball1 said:

It’s not that I’m an Archie hater. I just think Holtman is a lot better. I thought that 2 years ago, and I think that now. He was the guy I wanted from the get go. Him or Chris Mack. I wanted guys from the Big East. Not a guy from an A-10 school. Think about that. We hired a coach from the Atlantic 10. It says a lot about the state of Indiana basketball. Archie did some good things at Dayton, but he’s struggling trying to adjust to this level of basketball. Offensively, he doesn’t have much of a clue. He has failed to address how important having good shooting means in this conference.


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Xavier was an A-10 school at the beginning of Mack's tenure. Butler got lucky with having Stevens right during realignment.

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14 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

 

If we are recruiting against Villanova, MSU, and Virginia and getting some of those kids we’re gonna win a whole bunch of games.

 

Absolutely.   I completely get the fascination with 5* players, and if we get one here and there, it's probably a good thing; but I think we saw a year ago that having a 5* recruit on your team doesn't necessarily mean winning, and it can be disruptive if team chemistry is good.  I've coached against some really good players who were 3* kids or even lower.   Many have gone on to very successful college careers; and most of the rankings are based on athleticism and size, anyway.   Indiana - especially under Archie - needs basketball players.    If they're highly ranked basketball players, that's great.   But give me a kid who understands the game and not just the sport. Give me a kid who understands angles, help positioning, body control, and a mofo who can absolutely shoot it!!

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9 minutes ago, Old Friend said:

Absolutely.   I completely get the fascination with 5* players, and if we get one here and there, it's probably a good thing; but I think we saw a year ago that having a 5* recruit on your team doesn't necessarily mean winning, and it can be disruptive if team chemistry is good.  I've coached against some really good players who were 3* kids or even lower.   Many have gone on to very successful college careers; and most of the rankings are based on athleticism and size, anyway.   Indiana - especially under Archie - needs basketball players.    If they're highly ranked basketball players, that's great.   But give me a kid who understands the game and not just the sport. Give me a kid who understands angles, help positioning, body control, and a mofo who can absolutely shoot it!!

 

 Another words, give you Galloway and Leal!

 

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