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Indiana vs. (17) Michigan Game Thread 11/14 12:00PM EST ABC

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As we continue to recruit in the bottom third of the conference, we will continue to be in the bottom third of the conference. Our best hope is to continue to build the defense and try to get a few playmakers on offense.

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1 hour ago, JSHoosier said:

What I'd give to have an OC that runs a pro style offense.

With what quarterback?   So many here are low on Lagow; and seems to want Ramsey.  He is not capable of running a pro style offense.  Michigan's defense is exceptional.  I know everyone's tired of being close, as am I; but so much needs to be taken into account.  Indiana's right there with some good teams.  Why does anyone get upset if Allen gets emotional??    We've been through Gerry DiNardo for the love of God.  Guy wants to be here and wants Indiana to do well.   Be thankful we have a good coach who wants to be HERE.

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1 minute ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Ladies and gentlemen today you witnessed IU football in its historical style and fashion.   

Not close.  In historical fashion, Indiana loses to Michigan 45-6.   Indiana is far better than you think they are.

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6 minutes ago, Old Friend said:

Not close.  In historical fashion, Indiana loses to Michigan 45-6.   Indiana is far better than you think they are.

Why,  because they only lost by 7?  I understand your point and this team isn't nearly as bad as some of the teams we've fielded in the past, but historically, IU can't close out winnable games and IU football is sadly like watching Groundhog Day except for all too rare games.  

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3 hours ago, Brass Cannon said:

Guys I'm not that upset here we took a ranked team with the refs in their pocket to OT. 

No moral victory but nothing to be upset about

They got called for a school record number of penalties and the refs were in their pocket?

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1 hour ago, Old Friend said:

With what quarterback?   So many here are low on Lagow; and seems to want Ramsey.  He is not capable of running a pro style offense.  Michigan's defense is exceptional.  I know everyone's tired of being close, as am I; but so much needs to be taken into account.  Indiana's right there with some good teams.  Why does anyone get upset if Allen gets emotional??    We've been through Gerry DiNardo for the love of God.  Guy wants to be here and wants Indiana to do well.   Be thankful we have a good coach who wants to be HERE.

My comment was more in a general sense.

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4 hours ago, Hoosier Guy said:

There's absolutely everything to be upset about. IU does this game after game and year after year. There's nothing to ever show for it. IU will always be a mediocre football program

yep...will never change....22...straight losses to Michigan.....lot of bad coaching hires have doomed IU FB forever.

 

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11 minutes ago, Fkfootball1 said:

Maryland is not good. Idk why you guys think that? 

They were until they lost their top two QB's. Virginia is a tougher game than that. You just have to wonder where the teams head will be at with a likely loss to Mich St next week sending us to 0-4 in conference. 

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39 minutes ago, TXHoosierDaddy said:

They were until they lost their top two QB's. Virginia is a tougher game than that. You just have to wonder where the teams head will be at with a likely loss to Mich St next week sending us to 0-4 in conference.

We were 0-6 in conference and had just had our hearts ripped out with the Michigan game two years ago and we still handled them at their place.

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12 minutes ago, Old Friend said:

For all of you people who think we are EVER going to be Michigan, Ohio State, Penn State, or whoever....or be able to beat those teams on a consistent basis; I wonder what's putting that thought in your head.   Those schools are college football blue bloods.  They get 100,000 people in their stadiums every weekend.    They always recruit top 10 classes in the country.  Why on Earth would you blame losing to them on coaching or "same old IU?"   

Indiana is Indiana.   Only for a few years during the Mallory era when the stars aligned properly were we able to compete with the likes of these schools.   You really believe coaching hires is the reason?   You really believe this is some kind of traditional weakness?  I've been going to Indiana football games for 40 years.  My dad took me when I was very small; and I can tell you with unequivocal confidence this brand of football is MILES better than some of what this program has put on the field. 

If some Rutgers basketball fan posted on their board how coaching hires and bad luck/poor decisions was the reason they rarely beat Indiana in basketball, you'd laugh at them.  I hate that Indiana's place in Big Ten football is middle of the pack; but it is.  Indiana got screwed being out in the best (without ANY question) division in all of college football.  There's nothing even close.  

Indiana will win 6-7 games this season.   We will go to a bowl game.  We have a defense that's at times struggled against the top teams in the country; but generally dominated the other teams.  We shut a team out last week for the first time since 1993, I think.  We are ranked #43 in Sagarin's poll BEFORE yesterday's game.  Our strength of schedule BEFORE yesterday was 22.  You think those are "normal" Indiana numbers, and our usual?   You're wrong.  Simple as that.  If you believe that, you're wrong.  

Before yesterday's game, our 3 losses are to teams rated #2, #4, and #17 in Sagarin's October 7 poll.  Where on Earth do you think Indiana belongs?  Sagarin's polls are as objective as polls can be.  Numbers are what numbers are.  Indiana is rated ahead of Nebraska.  Ahead of Iowa State who won at Oklahoma last week.  Ahead of Tennessee.  Purdue.  Colorado, Arizona State, Northwestern.  Boise State.  West Virginia.  Arkansas, Syracuse (you may have seen they won v Clemson Friday).    This is somehow not good enough?  I'd ask you why?   Why would Indiana Football, now in the company of the schools listed above, be expected to beat Michigan?  Especially given the players we had injured. 

Very recently, Indiana used to be in the company of MAC schools and weather vane teams.  Teams like Arkansas State; Bowling Green, Southern Miss, Eastern Michigan, Louisiana Monroe, Wyoming, UT San Antonio, etc.  That's our football history; or at least the lion's share of it.  What is driving the expectation that we all of a sudden deserve somehow to be among the elite programs in the country?   We struggle at the quarterback position.  We don't have a lot of depth, especially up front where it matters most; and we have a coach who has exactly 7 games under his belt and the only players who are "his" are true freshmen.  We're also coming off something of a controversial period when players complained of mistreatment; and we're STILL having success by the standards of this program.

Indiana is building depth.  It does not yet have that.  But we're competing (generally) with 3* kids against programs with 5* kids in the most physical game there is and you expect to beat them.  Why?  Based on what?   Indiana is the 4th/5th best team in the toughest division in college football; and has lost to the top 3; all of whom expect to play on New Year's Day; and two probably have a shot to play in the BCS games.  We are not in that company.  We're just not.  The schedule gets a lot easier now.  Let's see where we are in 6 weeks.

Preach. Amen

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