Corruption in College Basketball

[pumpfake 3,914]

10 hours ago, mdn82 said:

Technically his dad did. There is no proof it trickled down to him, but common sense tells you that. So he won’t get punished for his dad taking the fall.


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As devil's advocate, Perea didn't know his guardian's wife bought bumper stickers years before he was born and HE still got punished for it.

[coonhounds 8,690]

Honestly, let the kid play. The people who bribed him are the individuals in power who are paid to uphold the rules of their system. I understand that legally the active and passive party in a bribe are guilty, but until the NCAA undergoes team change to fix this systemic issue and prevent this from happening in the future, I don’t want to see individual student athletes punished.


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Every kid knows it is against rules so if he can't play i am all for it. Punish everyone involved and let kids learn a lesson as well.

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[Brass Cannon 24,064]

Oh please after the UNC BS don't get me any crap about them being student athletes. No reason these kids shouldn't get paid. 

Let the kid play but my god only a shady staff would touch him. 

[WayneFleekHoosier 46,726]

Frank Martin has never been above it. Not surprised.


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[Bailey7878 2,506]

Honestly, let the kid play. The people who bribed him are the individuals in power who are paid to uphold the rules of their system. I understand that legally the active and passive party in a bribe are guilty, but until the NCAA undergoes team change to fix this systemic issue and prevent this from happening in the future, I don’t want to see individual student athletes punished.


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Yeah he knew nothing. He is as pure as the driven snow and was driving around in a brand new 80k vehicle. I'm sorry but he is no victim here and sometimes you need to learn a tough lesson in life.

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[Brass Cannon 24,064]

1 minute ago, Bailey7878 said:

Yeah he knew nothing. He is as pure as the driven snow and was driving around in a brand new 80k vehicle. I'm sorry but he is no victim here and sometimes you need to learn a tough lesson in life.

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What lesson is that?  That sometimes you are the scapegoat so a corrupt organization can keep being corrupt. 

No I would be all for punishing the kid if the NCAA was actually trying to clean itself up. But they aren't. Don't punish the kids for taking the money if you aren't going to punish the coaches doing it. 

[Bailey7878 2,506]

What lesson is that?  That sometimes you are the scapegoat so a corrupt organization can keep being corrupt. 
No I would be all for punishing the kid if the NCAA was actually trying to clean itself up. But they aren't. Don't punish the kids for taking the money if you aren't going to punish the coaches doing it. 

So most kids in the ncaa probably took nothing. You think Wisconsin and Indiana players are taking big checks to play? Yet they see a kid take 100k with no punishment? What's the point of any of them doing it the right way going forward then. You may as well let them all be paid from here in out then. Make it legal.

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[Brass Cannon 24,064]

1 minute ago, Bailey7878 said:

So most kids in the ncaa probably took nothing. You think Wisconsin and Indiana players are taking big checks to play? Yet they see a kid take 100k with no punishment? What's the point of any of them doing it the right way going forward then. You may as well let them all be paid from here in out then. Make it legal.

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Seems like a great reason to clean it up. Not scapegoat some kid. Punishing the kids is never going to clean it up. 

[Bailey7878 2,506]

Seems like a great reason to clean it up. Not scapegoat some kid. Punishing the kids is never going to clean it up. 

Actions have consequences. The kid is no victim.

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[Brass Cannon 24,064]

2 minutes ago, Bailey7878 said:

Actions have consequences. The kid is no victim.

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Actions have consequences but only for poor people in your scenario. Not the rich people orchestrating the rule breaking. 

[Josh 12,360]

Actions have consequences but only for poor people in your scenario. Not the rich people orchestrating the rule breaking. 

Actually, the rich people orchestrating it are facing multiple felonies and decades in federal prison...

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Not saying Brian Bowen is innocent. Just saying he played the game in the system the NCAA created. You think he’s the only one? Let’s not punish a kid, pretend like that fixes the issue, pat each other on the back for catching “the bad guy”, and move on. Let Brian Bowen play. The system provides incentives for cheating. Fix the system.


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[Brass Cannon 24,064]

8 minutes ago, Josh said:

 

Actually, the rich people orchestrating it are facing multiple felonies and decades in federal prison...

 

More scapegoats

[mdn82 25,456]

As devil's advocate, Perea didn't know his guardian's wife bought bumper stickers years before he was born and HE still got punished for it.

Don’t disagree. Consistency and common sense isn’t the NCAA strong suit.


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[MikeRoberts 6,832]

If he knew of the bribe, which he had to have, he is guilty. They should at least make the family give the money back before thinking about admitting him


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[yogisballin 2,288]

Wow, if he plays at any other school I’m just speechless. Like to see how this all shakes out


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[Bailey7878 2,506]

Not saying Brian Bowen is innocent. Just saying he played the game in the system the NCAA created. You think he’s the only one? Let’s not punish a kid, pretend like that fixes the issue, pat each other on the back for catching “the bad guy”, and move on. Let Brian Bowen play. The system provides incentives for cheating. Fix the system.


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The problem is I highly doubt the system gets fixed at least not by the ncaa so..

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[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

The problem is I highly doubt the system gets fixed at least not by the ncaa so..

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Sure. But forcing kids into your system that encourages this behavior in order for them to reach their dream (NBA), and then punishing them when they get caught is morally corrupt. Either get out of their way, allow the activity, or fix your system. And before anyone says the NBA sets the rule for one-and-done, they did set the rule, but they aren’t the only party behind that decision.


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[pumpfake 3,914]

I do have to laugh a bit about this whole investigation.  Remember when this story broke last summer and we thought it was going to sent massive shockwaves throughout the CBB landscape?  That it would weed out all of the crooked programs and finally clean up the system since the NCAA is incapable of doing so?  Well, it looks like the only "victims" will be those who were involved in cheating the Treasury out of money - those who simply cheat on recruiting rules will go unscathed.  We should have known.