Corruption in College Basketball

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

4 minutes ago, azguybob said:

would Crean even want to build a team from the ashes again ?..even with their program in the toilet I don't think they want him.

You mean, would Tom Crean like to coach in D1 again? Methinks yes.

[Tom White 1,435]

19 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Pitino has reportedly already landed his next job.

I thought he would work for the Courier-Journal doing restaurant reviews. Specializing in Italian eateries, of course.

[Stuhoo 75,559]

Pitino would be a fool to fight the dismissal, and his attorney, Steve Pence, will advise him accordingly. If he fought the dismissal, he would be subject to sworn testimony/sworn depositions, which could put him in extreme risk of enhancing his criminal exposure.

Foreshadowing the release from Pitino's attorney in a few days:

To support the shared goal of allowing UL and Coach Pitino to move forward, Coach Pitino has agreed to end his extraordinarily successful relationship with the University.

Or some crap like that.

[Brass Cannon 24,064]

4 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

HoopDirt implying U of Miami's nose is about to get dirtier.

On Twitter?

[Stromboli 6,055]

Just because we're on the subject...  

 

Part of why the FBI is so incredibly thorough, and unwilling to even pursue less-than-airtight information is that they have an extremely high standard of proof to achieve in order for a prosecution to succeed.  This is the "beyond a reasonable doubt" standard that you so often hear.  This literally means that you can't conceive of anything being the truth other than the crime as described and proven by the prosecution.  (Again, Stuhoo, jump in if I'm off base.)  To get there, they have to navigate through the evidentiary rules that are set up to ensure that the information is extremely reliable.  Criminal cases have a very high standard of proof.  Often in civil matters, the standard is going to be "a preponderance of the evidence," meaning it is just more likely than not that something happened.  Literally, if you're 51% convinced something happened, even if there are other plausible explanations, then you've got enough to meet the standard.  This lower standard of proof is why OJ was found not guilty in criminal court, but the civil case brought against him for the same actions was successful.

 

The NCAA is not in a court of law.  They do not have to worry about evidence rules, and their standard of proof isn't very clear.  They can rely on hearsay, etc.  Further, they are operating under a standard of proof which is much lower than that which a prosecutor must prove.  From the NCAA:  "[the] standard of proof is whether the information is credible, persuasive and of a nature that reasonable people would rely upon in the conduct of serious affairs."  That kind of language is so wide-open to interpretation that an attorney wouldn't know where to begin.  In this case, information gained by the FBI in their investigation would certainly seem to meet that standard, even where it is not useful in the prosecution of the criminal case.  Perhaps, some of these other interviews Brass Cannon is discussing would meet that standard, enough to cause a finding of infractions which would lead to sanctions.

 

Here's a helpful PDF I'm sourcing this information from:  http://www.ncaa.org/sites/default/files/BBD_Comm.Infractions.pdf

[Class of '66 Old Fart 80,936]

6 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

On Twitter?

Yes.

[Trish 11,408]

https://twitter.com/DarrenHeitner/status/913095940134903815

 

 

 

 

YES

[Class of '66 Old Fart 80,936]

Osterman and Dana O'Neil have both retweeted the following from Darren Heitner:  Sources: Employees of Nike's EYBL grassroots division, along with documents, have been subpoenaed by FBI in furtherance of investigation.

[VO5 8,272]

2 minutes ago, Treesh said:

https://twitter.com/DarrenHeitner/status/913095940134903815

 

 

 

 

YES

Yup. Here comes schools like Duke, UK, etc's involvement

[azguybob 108]

Just now, VO5 said:

Yup. Here comes schools like Duke, UK, etc's involvement

can only hope those two r involved...especially....UK !!

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan 6,098]

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7 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Osterman and Dana O'Neil have both retweeted the following from Darren Heitner:  Sources: Employees of Nike's EYBL grassroots division, along with documents, have been subpoenaed by FBI in furtherance of investigation.

Hmmmmm.  Now this could grow legs.

[azguybob 108]

1 minute ago, Joe DeLow said:

Possible that the AAU circuit gets blown up?

would hope so !!

 

[sirhoosierlot 2,479]

1 minute ago, nixie said:

Go ahead and cancel that visit Romeo .. https://twitter.com/chris_sourk/status/913087887691931648

looks like a fake account

[Trish 11,408]

 

 

YES

 

[JustWinWoody 3,259]

Just now, sirhoosierlot said:

looks like a fake account

Yep, saw that.  I feel like a news reporter now.  

[Trish 11,408]

3 minutes ago, Joe DeLow said:

Possible that the AAU circuit gets blown up?

 

 

Only the big time programs. 

[sirhoosierlot 2,479]

Just now, nixie said:

Yep, saw that.  I feel like a news reporter now.  

We've all done it lol 

[Class of '66 Old Fart 80,936]

Just now, Joe DeLow said:

Possible that the AAU circuit gets blown up?

OMG.  Bite your tongue.  What'll I do next spring/summer if I don't have AAU stats to compile?

[Hardwood83 4,495]

1 hour ago, iufaninillinois said:

Fran Fraschilla just mentioned he thought Crean would do a good job at Louisville

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I agree. Long-term, consistent high-level winner? Uh, no. But pick up the pieces and rebuild with enthusiasm? Sure.

"It's Louisville.....It's Louisville."