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Archie Miller's staff at Indiana will be Bruiser Flint, Tom Ostrom (Dayton) and Ed Schilling (UCLA),

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5 minutes ago, HoosierRich said:

You don't have to believe me....but it is true. As I stated in another post, here is even a Butler message board from several years ago talking about it.

http://buhoops.yuku.com/topic/1991/John-Groce#.WOBuqOv3arU

 

OK but a poster said he would have been 22 at the time.  That's a huge detail that was left out of the earlier claim.

Come on, let's be honest.  If I was a student teacher at 22 years old, I'd probably be slaying all kinds of legal-age high school girls too as long as they weren't my students.  That's not a big deal at all.

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OK but a poster said he would have been 22 at the time.  That's a huge detail that was left out of the earlier claim.
Come on, let's be honest.  If I was a student teacher at 22 years old, I'd probably be slaying all kinds of legal-age high school girls too as long as they weren't my students.  That's not a big deal at all.


That's a great way to never get hired as a teacher. Also highly unethical, pretty gross, and against every single school's rules. It's a huge deal.

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3 minutes ago, AKHoosier said:

OK but a poster said he would have been 22 at the time.  That's a huge detail that was left out of the earlier claim.

Come on, let's be honest.  If I was a student teacher at 22 years old, I'd probably be slaying all kinds of legal-age high school girls too as long as they weren't my students.  That's not a big deal at all.

I am curious why you so vehemently stated how it would be illegal and went into the fact he would have been in a position of authority and then reversed course and defended the action......his "position of authority" didn't change, regardless of age.

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He was a teacher at Hamilton Southeastern High School in the mid 90's.....this is fact. Here is a thread from a Butler message board talking about his "indiscretion" This was well known amongst us students. 
http://buhoops.yuku.com/topic/1991/John-Groce#.WOBuqOv3arU
 


Sounds like two people assumed and someone that knew him had never heard that and would be shocked if it were true. Sounds like a lot of teenagers assuming stuff back then and being completely full of ****.

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1 minute ago, Dalton26 said:

 


Sounds like two people assumed and someone that knew him had never heard that and would be shocked if it were true. Sounds like a lot of teenagers assuming stuff back then and being completely full of ****.

 

Ok, if you say so. I shared my opinion of the man, and said I wasn't a fan personally....I didn't claim him to be the anti-Christ.  Others don't have to agree, or like it, but I stand by what I said.

    

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Ok, if you say so. I shared my opinion of the man, and said I wasn't a fan personally....I didn't claim him to be the anti-Christ.  Others don't have to agree, or like it, but I stand by what I said.
    

You didn't just share your opinion though, you accused him of a serious crime without any evidence...


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2 minutes ago, HoosierRich said:

Actually, I said It wasn't illegal, just unethical.

It's the opposite though.. It's illegal but it's not unethical. Anyway, it's not something I would go around accusing people of, but to each his own I guess. 

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18 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

It's the opposite though.. It's illegal but it's not unethical. Anyway, it's not something I would go around accusing people of, but to each his own I guess. 

That's not true in the state of Indiana. It is administratively against virtually every school districts rules for a teacher and consenting 18 yr old, but not illegal. I'm sure some states may be different, but that is not the case in Indiana.

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Actually, I said It wasn't illegal, just unethical.

 

You're missing the point though. Accusations like that with 0 proof whether they were illegal or not can ruin people's lives.

 

That's why if someone nationally would read what you wrote, wrote a story on it, and then it caused Groce to never get another coaching job you'd probably be hearing from his lawyers. Accusations without a shred of evidence are usually complete crap but can follow someone forever.

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43 minutes ago, Dalton26 said:

 

You're missing the point though. Accusations like that with 0 proof whether they were illegal or not can ruin people's lives.

 

That's why if someone nationally would read what you wrote, wrote a story on it, and then it caused Groce to never get another coaching job you'd probably be hearing from his lawyers. Accusations without a shred of evidence are usually complete crap but can follow someone forever.

 

    I've said all I will on the matter......lets just agree to disagree and move on.

  

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I'm thinking both ostrom and groce are being considered for the Akron job and that's why Miller hasn't formally announced his other assistants. He's understandably allowing his friends and colleagues to see if they get the Akron job, and if they don't, I suspect he'll hire both.


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44 minutes ago, schimpfj said:

I'm thinking both ostrom and groce are being considered for the Akron job and that's why Miller hasn't formally announced his other assistants. He's understandably allowing his friends and colleagues to see if they get the Akron job, and if they don't, I suspect he'll hire both.


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Ostrom will be on staff. It's Groce looking at the Akron job. Only reason there hasn't been an announcement on Bruiser and Ostrom is because they're waiting until this upcoming week to announce it.

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He was a teacher at Hamilton Southeastern High School in the mid 90's.....this is fact. Here is a thread from a Butler message board talking about his "indiscretion" This was well known amongst us students. 
http://buhoops.yuku.com/topic/1991/John-Groce#.WOBuqOv3arU
 

This is a post from that message board

"Groce was gone by the time you guys were around, there were whispers of a scandal involving a high school girl...nothing ever verified just rumor"

So, that is your proof? Some guy saying there were "whispers" and "rumor"?

Pretty thin ice you're on there.

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