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Player and Recruit Retention News/Discussion & Potential Transfers

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9 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

 


I'm aware..?

 

 

7 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:


I wasn't aware u were aware


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2 minutes ago, Dalton26 said:

I'm aware that you weren't aware that he was aware.

 

MOD WARNING FOR DERAILING THE THREAD!!

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29 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

A direct, key quote from the presser, which is now on-line, regarding the four declarants efforts to seek out NBA feedback:

Archie: "I know OG's on his way. I think Thomas has continued to really push toward, you know, finding answers out. And I know James and Rob, once they finish out the semester here, so to speak, ya know, with some finals, I think those guys are also gonna get their opportunity as well. 

Later, about DeRon: "He's gonna be a major, major player for us next year. The opportunity is there."

Speculative takeaway? Rob and James are in Bloomington as student-athletes, and it seems as though TB is in the process of preparing to move on.

 

It certainly sounds more and more like Bryant has decided to give up on attending classes.

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If Bryant has given up on school then it's best that he moves on with his basketball career imo. I don't expect our guys to be rocket scientists, but it doesn't take much effort to show up for class and at least pretend to be a student. Good for the other two guys for still taking it seriously. 

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Not one bit worried about a player who feels he is ready yet wasn't ready to lead. Be 6'10", pretend you belong on the premier. 100% sure IU brings toughness next year - not a perceived vision concocted by a soft coach and softer player

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2 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:


· Miller isn’t anticipating that the scholarship situation – the Hoosiers are currently oversigned – being a major problem. “We’ll sort it out. We inherited it and we’ll fix it.”
I love he didn't say it will work itself out he said we will sort it out and we will fix it


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I guess I can't fully love it.   After listening to his press conference he said it both ways  Lol

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1 hour ago, Tom White said:

It certainly sounds more and more like Bryant has decided to give up on attending classes.

I'm fine with it. Really don't think TB and Archie's demeanors mesh well. Archie has a no BS attitude and expects that from his players. I really like our team even without TB in the fold. 

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I'm fine with it. Really don't think TB and Archie's demeanors mesh well. Archie has a no BS attitude and expects that from his players. I really like our team even without TB in the fold. 

Totally agree. TB is gone.



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Is it bad that I totally want TB back as a player, but could care less if he leaves because I won't have to see him flop all over the floor and complain about every foul called on him and every foul not called on an opponent?

 

 

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Agreed. His lack of defensive effort really makes me care less if he comes back or not. I know that will be one less leader on the floor, but I'm not sure (assuming we get RoJo back) his leadership/scoring outweighs his defensive liability.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Uwe Robb said:

Is it bad that I totally want TB back as a player, but could care less if he leaves because I won't have to see him flop all over the floor and complain about every foul called on him and every foul not called on an opponent?


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Hoping Archie doesnt put up with that stuff.

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1 hour ago, Uwe Robb said:

Is it bad that I totally want TB back as a player, but could care less if he leaves because I won't have to see him flop all over the floor and complain about every foul called on him and every foul not called on an opponent?


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I was actually okay with it last year because it at least showed that he cared about it.  Too many of guys who didn't seem to.

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RoJo is coming back, presumably.  
JBJ, I really have no idea.  I really like him, and almost hope that he gets his best opportunity to play professionally, be it NBA, D league, or overseas.  I don't think anyone else can match his production (duh), but I wouldn't hate to see some of the young guns get some time.  Remember, CuJo is one smooth operator out there, and was a very high recruit.  He lost his mojo after Kansas, but there's some untapped potential there.  I really hope that he plans on coming back, because I could see him having a great career at IU still.  Obviously RoJo can play SG well, too, and we'd all like to see AD headfake his way to the hoop a couple times.  So while I'd miss JBJ, I don't think losing him would be disastrous for the team.
Thomas is a different story.  He wants to play at the next level, and I'm assuming that he missed the banquet and other team events because he is off training with some specialist for the pre-draft stuff.  Huge chance we lose him, and he will leave a huge hole on the roster.  
Given CAM's full court press to keep all three recruits, I think the only logical conclusion is that TB and JBJ have indicated that they intend to leave.  Remember, prior to Clifton reaffirming his commitment, he said he just wanted to talk with Archie to make sure Archie didn't intend to red-shirt him.  We all recognize that even a redshirt takes a scholly, but given the subsequent affirmation of the commitment, Archie must have informed Clifton that there's a place on the team for Clifton next year.  
Using the best information available now, that's my guess.  On one hand, we are losing all of our current stars.  On the other hand, no one is leaving the team for a different NCAA team.  And the fan in me sees a team with no stars on it, and a new coach, with a decently balanced roster full of guys that want to play together.  And this is certainly not a team bereft of talent, either.  A top seven of Deron, Juwan, Collin, RoJo, Newkirk, Justin Smith, and whichever guard emerges will be good enough, and better than any roster Archie has had before.  

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TB + added muscle + playing in the post + better footwork + better coach + better system = first round lock after junior year. I'm sure some team will take him in the second round but a year to excel could have him up to early to mid 20s. I would welcome him back in a heartbeat.

Better footwork would be a stretch. He just naturally does not have it. I'm all for a guy leaving for his dream if he wants. I honestly don't ever see him in the league though. D league or Europe is were he will end up.

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Draft Express (by most accounts, the most consistently accurate draft projection service) update:

OG - #14 (1st round)

TB - #42 (2nd round)

James, RoJo: Unranked in the top 100 draft prospects.

NBA pre-draft combine invites come out this Friday. The pre-draft combine will be on about May 10th. The early entrants who have not signed with an agent have until May 24 to pull their names from the draft pool. 

 

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