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KzooHoosier82

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  1. 3 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

    Guessing there's about 400 courtside seats. That's $40,000 of NIL money right there.

    Bleacher seats? Maybe 2,000. That's another $100,000. 

    Add in say, 4,000 seats at $5/per for another $100,000.

    We're getting the players a cool $250,000 for a few hours of NIL work. Subtract charitable contributions, expenses, etc? I'm thinking $15,000 per player. Try pulling in that cabbage as a basketball player at Xavier, Butler, Northwestern, or many SEC football oriented schools.

    Hell, the SEC and Pac12 don't average 10,000 attendance per game, never mind for an exhibition event for NIL rewards.

    With our staff + a winning trend we should not be losing many recruits to less NIL successful schools. Especially since IU is obviously motivated to leverage our NIL potential.

    I’m not sure what they consider “courtside” vs “bleechers”. If we’re talking front row on the court w padded chairs, 75-100 seats tops. There’s only 4 rows of bleachers (sections 3,4,8&9) on the court 400 or so seats at most…I’d hope they aren’t counting behind the basket as $100 “bleecher” seats. 
    Do they release any info on how much of ticket sales go to the players? The cost to open AH with adequate security and cleaning crews is a ton of money. Concessions wouldn’t come close to covering that expense so unless event costs are being donated this isnt going to generate anything close to $15k per player


  2. 14 minutes ago, DWB said:

    OK...you guys disagree with me, and that's all good. I come from a different generation of value assessment I guess.

    But comparing $100 balcony ticket for a game is one thing. For a ½-a$$ practice, show-time event is quite another. I just don't see how you can justify charging $50 (my estimate) to attend something like that.

    I applaud the effort to get the players some pocket money, but disagree with trying to get them enough $$$ to fully fund their retirement accts...

    I guess you have to look at it a bit differently if justifying the expense is an issue. This is just as much for the fans as it is to support the guys on the team. $25 to entertain you with a $25 tip to the players to reward them for the hard work they put in. Kinda like paying $200 a plate at a charity gala knowing your dinner and drinks are only worth $100. 


  3. On 10/10/2021 at 8:30 AM, Hoosierfan2017 said:

    Phinisee can’t shoot, though. Through 86 games he has shooting splits of 36/29.8/67.5. 

    Barring a miraculous offensive improvement, I’m going to be extremely disappointed if Rob Phinisee is playing significant minutes for us this season. He was a huge reason for our offensive struggles last year. Far too often we were playing 4 on 5 on offense with him out there. He would walk the ball up the floor despite Archie constantly yelling at him to go faster. 

    We, at least in theory, made too many guard upgrades for him to keep getting a lot of time. 

    Phin absolutely can shoot. He just hasn’t shown it consistently yet. That has a lot to do with confidence, being put in the right position on the court and late in game, stamina. No one can shoot under Archie’s offense. I’ll hold off judgment until I see how our guys mesh under this new system 


  4. 3 minutes ago, DWB said:

    Not picking on you, just clarifying that the team is 100% vaccinated according to Woody. Shouldn't be an issue. I also expect masks to be required by all attendees.

    Being vaccinated doesn’t prevent you from testing positive. It happens to athletes all the time and they (and those in direct contact with them) have to sit out a week 


  5. 13 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

    The only problem with that is who’s going to want to pay > $20 a ticket for HH 2.0 only three days before the first game of the year?

    I honestly just don’t quite understand this event. If you put tickets over $20 then you’re talking close to $100 for a family of four to go to something very similar to what they just went to for free. We’re still in a pandemic, so all the autographs and everything puts our guys in close proximity to hundreds of people days before the season. If it makes the players money then great, just not sure about it. 

    I don’t understand it either. It’s half a$$ed and thrown together last minute. I absolutely hate the idea of putting fans within arms length of our guys during a pandemic. This has “half the team in covid protocal” written all over it. They should have replaced Hoosier Hysteria with this and planned it out so fans could make arrangements to attend and the program could set up covid friendly pods (which they may still do) to prevent covid spread to the team. 


  6. 1 hour ago, coonhounds said:

    Ok I missed that part thanks. Very reasonable is vague lol. 20 dollars per ticket is reasonable to me but 10.00 is better. Anything over 20 is outrageous to me lol

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    $20 a ticket would do little more than cover the expenses for the event. If they’re gonna do this, it needs to generate actual income for the guys on the team. 


  7. 3 hours ago, FightFor6 said:

    Because he's about to make them money? What are you even arguing at this point aside from Eric shouldn't be involved with the program because it makes you uncomfortable? Every single Power 5 school in the country will have thousands of fans that post cringeworthy material as bad or worse than EP has posted over the years. The number that directly make athletes considerable money will likely be able to be counted on 1-2 hands. Again -- that is the ONLY thing that matters. 

    Random fans posting cringey nonsense is a far cry from IU cosigning on this guy’s cringeworthy behavior. This isn’t about dumb posts or tweets. It’s about a guy who’s given access to the program and it’s recruiting and making a total a$$ of himself, this university and the sports programs he posts content about. 17-18 year old kids are going to be put off by the notion that they’d be obligated to put up with and interact with these guys and they’ll have NIL opportunities everywhere. These clowns also haven’t produced a single dime for IUs athletes on record. Saying they’re doing something to benefit student athletes and actually doing it are not the same thing.  There’s no reason to put up with this. Either make him clean up his douchey act or ban him from the program. It’s very simple 


  8. 7 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

    That was two years ago. Their behavior HAS changed, with the occasional backslide :)

    Defending these guys is weird. Neither of them are the “massive success” some posters are trying to claim. By LA standards, Eric is the equivalent of upper level corporate management…not some generational wealth earning booster with deep connections. Being able to name drop James Cordon and show off his primetime Emmy isn’t cool enough to potential recruits to outweigh the creepy/weird behavior he displays. Also, as someone who enjoys cigars I find his incessant parading of his lit stoogies bizarre. We get it, you smoke cigars…you don’t have to act like a 16 year old who just swiped one out of your dad’s humidor undetected to film your lame tik tok


  9. 45 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

     Minor point, and to be clear I’m absolutely thrilled with what has happened since Woody was hired, but if fans show up there should be a scrimmage even if they have to use a walk-on or two. Families etc, put in a lot of time to attend and should get at least 10 minutes of seeing TJD etc in a scrimmage.

    I don’t care if it’s girls vs guys, you scrimmage. I feel bad for whoever took the time to show up only to see a lame dunk contest and 3pt shooting practice. Did the girls team at least play a game?


  10. 34 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:



    Defense fought hard.


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    I was pretty impressed all things considered. Still hate the soft zone coverage schemes but that’s on the staff. We lose a TON on defense next year. Sad to see this year wasted by inept coaching with an absolute joke of an offensive line


  11. 3 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

    Even if Penix avoided serious injury I don’t want to see him start the rest of the season. In our three games against legitimate teams he’s gone 41-93 for 498 yards and 2 touchdowns to 7 interceptions. That’s a 44% completion rate and a 5.3 YPA. He no longer appears to be a player who can win you games against quality opponents, though he can be a big reason why you lose to them. Tuttle had a bad int today but he could move the ball downfield. He can get out of the pocket and scramble when needed. I’m not saying he’s the savior, but Penix has looked cooked. 

    I’ll reserve any judgment of Tuttle until he’s put in the position of getting 1st team reps. I expect that kind of miscommunication from a guy who’s coming off the bench. I have no way of knowing how Penix performs in practice but in actual games, he’s not even close to as good as Tuttle. Coaching staff needs to step up and make the correct decision 


  12. Just now, LamarCheeks said:

    Hewitt just sorta ran a really lazy route down the sideline -- then just stopped. It looked as if Tuttle expected him to run a post. Or at least cut back in. But he just stopped. 

    I'm not sure that pick was all Tuttle's fault. 

    CTA sure thought it was but who knows. Regardless, there was a safety helping on a covered receiver…gotta check down to someone else


  13. 1 minute ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

    If I’m being honest I’ve never like Allen. Heck, I started the fire Tom Allen thread a couple years ago. You can’t argue with the past two years, but he’s losing me again this year. I can’t even comprehend why we didn’t try putting points on the board before the half when PSU gets the ball first. It’s scared, timid playcalling that will never win the big game for you. 

    Playing not to lose will almost always ensure you do. How do we want to go out tonight? Fighting or on our knees?


  14. 2 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

    Guys it’s either Penix running for his life or Tuttle. It’s a much deeper issue than the QB right now. Penix is 5/15, how many of those 10 incompletions are drops or pressure throwaways? He isn’t without blame, but idk what a change does other than give PSU a clean target. 

    It’s impossible to know if Penix sucks or not. He obviously can’t shine this turd on his own. I’m not sure Tuttle could do anything different. When your O Line cant block and your WRs can’t get open, there’s really nothing the QB can do


  15. This is dumb. If you’re not going to coach what are you getting paid for? Nothing is working on offense yet we keep running the same sets. The O Line can’t run block. WRs can’t run crisp routes and get separation. Penix doesn’t have time to get through his progressions nor can he run so he throws half his balls out of play. This is a complete failure and our dipsh*t staff has zero answers 

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