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Get over it.  Make a sunshine pumpers only thread then.  

Go back a page.  I was "attacked" for a "winning the offseason" banner comment.  A joke if you will. 
That's all I am commenting on -- tempering the optimism.  It's great we have new guys, new roster, etc. etc.  But my fear is the new boss is the same as the old boss.  I have been on here saying -- show me, first.  That's all.  Some of you all are insane.  

Correct.
Being honest, Woodson's approach hasn't been great the past 3 years IMO.  He pissed me off last year.  I think the burner on Twitter isn't helping the case by spiking the ball on the 50 yard line either.  So I am still very much wait and see.  All that being said, just looking at the roster in a vacuum, I am pleased with what we got.  If they figure out how to start really incorporating the HS recruits into this, then ok, we are good on roster construction (even though I don't think this was some master plan, but sometimes it is better to be lucky and just stumble into things...)
Hopefully the play on the court finally matches the personnel.

Congrats to the fake tough guy committing to the fake tough guy school.

Well, heck. If we play Leal and Goode at the same time, we may never lose a game. According to some math, somewhere.

Let’s not get too far ahead of ourselves. Chances are we hear this offseason how our “2nd unit is as good as our 1st unit” or some similar garbage that leads to a platoon system to start the year again.
I do like the Goode pickup, think he fills a real need from a roster construction perspective, I’ll just still lack confidence that any shooter will be utilized correctly until Woodson proves he can adapt accordingly.
 
My expectation is that Goode comes in and sits in the corner for 80%+ of plays and hopes to get the ball, similar to how we used Kopp.

So you're a no show to the "Winning the Offseason" banner ceremony?   

They lock those 3 down in quick order then I will go and track down the crow.  Still not warming an oven until we start playing (and winning) games.

Not so sure about that.  With the amount of sunshine being pumped, need SPF 100 for protection.
I am done with "optimism."  Optimism gets you 0.  I am seeking results.    
Granted, Woodson did better than predicted in the portal with 3 top 25 guys.  That's Mount Rushmore territory.   But let's see where it goes on the court before we start steaking thru the quad.  

Gotta fix the problem on the sideline.

Because money is a baseline 'something', but lots of schools have money and therefore money isn't everything!
Thanks very much for sharing Chris. I love how you bring info, but qualify it with a dose of reality. Because it's my impression that there are rarely absolute certainties and I enjoy the hell out of real information, not telling people what they want to hear and pretending it's certain.

Sure, but VA Legislature says "hold my beer."  :) 

yikes. they might be the losers of the offseason unless they make some portal adds soon.

I think so. Woodson having to build a team pre nil like crean did I mean wow that would have been ugly.

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Agree 100%. I doubt Woodson did much more than dangle a Cook or Simons check in front of the kids. He hasn’t shown me much of anything in 3-plus years. Why expect more at this point?

FIRE MEDIOCRE MIKE.

He is deleting them himself and then playing the victim. Dude is a narcissist. 

I’ve seen you tube videos that say Mike Woodson is making magic and Mike Woodson is reloading. IMO Mike Woodson isn’t doing crap. The billionaire donors are making the magic and reloading for Mike Woodson. I don’t believe he could even field a competitive team without them. 

Don't confuse a couple of billionaires' $2M with "muscle".
Woodson still has to coach this team (and there are still 3 open scholarships). So far, Woodson has not impressed me with his "work" this off-season - I'd expect the same results from 90% of the regulars on BTB with $6M to spend.
We get chastised for posting reality on the pro-Woodson threads... now we got the sunshine pumpers trying to pump in the Fire Woodson thread. 
FIRE MEDIOCRE MIKE WOODSON TODAY.

I don't have a problem with them spending money. I have a problem that they're doing it so much now just to avoid having to admit it was a mistake to hire a guy no one else would've answered the phone for.

Yeah that is a nope from me.  I have been told that the Woodson system is going to be a winner at Indiana and we just had a player problem (sidebar: funny how guys like Tyme think it is a crime to talk bad about the staff or to question guys like Leal and his statements at senior night while they basically **** on the players for not being good enough to execute Woodson's brilliant strategy...I digress though).
So anyways, he got the money and they are claiming they now have the players and they have landed them in the way future rosters should be built (i.e. minimal HS recruits) then the expectation should be to win now.  He has 2 former Freshman of the year players on his team.  A super senior from Arizona. A Junior Reneau who at least offensively was a bucket.  He has dynamic guards.  He has another 5* HS wing.  He has a really good 6th man in Galloway.  If he drops another 22-12 TJD last season-esque performance then he is never going to be the dude.  It isn't worth wasting another year on a then 67 year old guy whose ceiling is mediocre even with a huge payroll.  12-8 is really pretty garbage based on how much bragging they are doing right now.  This isn't a 45 year old who has time to figure it out.  

Bottom line right now is that while he continues in a style that is very abrasive and focused on calling others out, he has pretty accurate info.
It wasn't ever the information that he offered here that was the issue.  It was the pounding to death of it and lack of people skills that were the issue.

Gabe Cupps is the ultimate Hoosier.....kid recruits other players even if they would take playing time from him.

Whomever it is I basically just view it as the mouthpiece of the coaching staff.

The only tough offseason has been the fact Woodson is coaching these players putting a damper on the enthusiasm about landing them.
We all want to win, most of those in this thread don't think Woodson gives us the best chance to do that.  However, since some of his backers enjoy crowing about how awesome we are doing (once again) in the offseason, be prepared for some pretty harsh blowback if the wins don't match the expectations the roster should be setting.

Extend his retirement.  Definitely.