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Feathery

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  1. Feathery

    Fire Coach Woodson

    Great post. Though I think Oearl can make a final four and possibly a national title in 6 years or less. So even if he is a bridge he would have the program ripe for another great coach to take over after he is done. There is no reason to take chances on modmajor coaches who may or may not work out. Say we have Pearl for 6 years and have a final four and the foundation is set. Then you go get Nate Oats who will still be in his 50’s for a decade. If a Brad Stevens type presents himself then great go get him. But even Stevens was proven by national title games/final fours etc.
  2. Feathery

    Fire Coach Woodson

    I think the tearing him down is different to different ppl. I don’t find the hump jokes, cigars, and golf comments to be tearing him down. Saying there is an issue with being a tool by telling him to retire in front of his wife is a bit much to me and I wouldn’t do it. But I think people are taking out their frustrations on Woodson when the issue is with administration for putting someone not qualified into the role to begin with. I agree it gets dicey in the middle ground of how the season will end. But when I see 1 high school recruit coming in. And he is a 1-2 year player. We will have a gap in our classes and need to fill in the portal for some upperclassmen in a couple years. The roster building is terrible. The recruiting philosophy isn’t one to be successful. And since he was a bridge to begin with. The goal can’t be to be better than Archie Miller. the goal needs to be consistently good. Consistently a top conference team. Consistently building a team that plays a modern style. Building and designing a program using analytics. There is nothing sustainable that Woodson has built that you can hang your hat on that shows the program is moving forward to be a contender. Time for a change imo.
  3. Feathery

    Fire Coach Woodson

    Let the moderators moderate. If you don’t like what ppl say then don’t come to this thread. What people have to say doesn’t bother me in the slightest. If you’re going to take offense to hump jokes, cigars, or memes then maybe message boards aren’t the place for you. There are plenty of things I’ve seen posted on message boards and social media I don’t agree with. I just don’t go back to those threads or argue to change someone’s mind on their jokes or comments that some find offensive. Goodness go to a political message board and you might have an aneurysm telling ppl to be respectful. Lol So let’s get back on topic. Say you’re the AD, what would you do if the decision was yours and the season is now over?
  4. Feathery

    Fire Coach Woodson

    I know your username from another board. But you just joined here on Feb 20? Did you join to defend Woodson and scold people who say things you dislike?
  5. Feathery

    Fire Coach Woodson

    A guy who is a NBA lifer. Again it’s a different game. And you named 1 guy who the game may or may not have passed by…..1. Where are the Hoosiers doing great as college coaches? Honestly Alford has been the most successful and he hasn’t sniffed the job and was passed over for a guy who never coached a day in his life at the college level. edit…. Isn’t Glen Grundwald the same guy who hired Woodson to be the Knicks head coach? He never won a championship as an nba exec. So just having a title doesn’t make one successful. And I know you work with successful ppl daily. So you should know a title doesn’t mean success.
  6. Feathery

    Fire Coach Woodson

    Playing and coaching are 2 different animals. And Buckner has never been a successful coach and never played in an era where the game is dominated by analytics and the 3 pt shot. And yet we rely on him and other older players who support Woodson for sage advice? The game has passed that generation of Hoosiers by.
  7. Feathery

    Fire Coach Woodson

    Yeah, and what I’m saying is we need a base of players who will be there for 3-4 years. Then sprinkle in the 1-2 year guys (including portal). So if we aren’t recruiting kids who will be here for 3-4 years then we aren’t recruiting the right kids. im all for getting a. 5 star kid a class. But need to add several kids ranked in the top 100, ideally around 30-75 range who are high upside and talented players who go to high major programs for several years.
  8. Feathery

    Fire Coach Woodson

    Right! So what are we doing then? I can’t see any nonpolitical reason to keep Woodson. He was suppose to right the ship and bridge to the next HC. But he hasn’t recruited high school talent to build a base off of for the next coach. Making the job even more difficult and giving the fanbase little to no hope with this staff.
  9. Feathery

    Fire Coach Woodson

    I think that’s the problem with IU. Look at Purdue. They have been a power and are taking kids who are staying 3-4 years. They aren’t going 1 and done. And they have been a power for a few years running now. You can’t win consistently by relying on taking a ton of portal guys yearly.
  10. Feathery

    Fire Coach Woodson

    So if Woodson is retained does he then get an extension? Only 3 years left on his deal and how does the program recruit high school kids if the HC doesn’t have a contract that will cover their time in Bloomington? To me if you keep him you have to extend him. Which is a terrible idea. Which is one reason, of many, I think Dolson is likely politicking behind the scenes to get support to move on after the season.
  11. Feathery

    Fire Coach Woodson

    As someone who hasn’t taken a personal shot at Woodson I will add that when I read your posts in this thread it comes across as arrogant and condescending. It’s why people are having a go at you. Maybe everyone needs to take a breath and relax. It’s Saturday night, go have dinner out or a drink with family and friends. As for the overarching sentiment of the fanbase, it’s because the fanbase doesn’t trust the administration. The administration for decades has kept coaches too long. Not wanting to hurt feelings and doing what is right. That’s not what the successful people I know have done. They recognize the issue and fix it. So the fanbase has had 20pmus years of frustrations and it’s going to keep getting worse if they don’t finally make the changes needed.
  12. Feathery

    Fire Coach Woodson

    Honestly surprised that students haven't had a protest before a game. Like not go into the arena until after the game starts or something along those lines. Has much vitriol there seems to be, it could definitely get worse. I hope it doesn’t. Hopefully a resolution happens swiftly after the season.
  13. Feathery

    Fire Coach Woodson

    I feel sorry for you if that’s how you view people. People change, learn, and grow over time. Things don’t stay linear.
  14. Feathery

    Fire Coach Woodson

    The GM shouldn’t come and go with the HC. He should solely focused on basketball and cover multiple coaches if necessary. Just like the NBA. With NIL this is now professional basketball as well.
  15. Feathery

    Fire Coach Woodson

    Actually I agree with the need for a GM. Regardless of who the HC is, the GM should be a position within the program. Michigan just hired one for football. That role can use analytics to really focus in recruiting and roster building. This should free up the coach to do more of the heavy lifting with donors for NIL. It’s why Ryan Day has taken a more vocal role with NIL for OSU football. He has transitioned to a more CEO role, bc the NIL era has changed the game. IU is such a program for basketball that this structure is needed.
  16. Feathery

    Fire Coach Woodson

    Honestly, I thought Matta was just here to help Woodson get acclimated to the college game and show him the ropes. Might be hard to pair a GM who is using analytics to a HC that doesn’t seem to be invested in them
  17. Feathery

    Fire Coach Woodson

    Read on another board then. Definitely didn’t make it up. lol if he wants to go then bye. Can’t keep players just to keep them. Have to have the right culture in place.
  18. Feathery

    Fire Coach Woodson

    I think the booster/NIL variable needs to be considered. If I choose to move on from Woody, will they support the new coach substantially to fixed a flawed roster. Adding both high school talent in the 25 class and portal players to keep the roster experienced. If they will then move on to May or Collins. Probably May but he must hire one defensive specialist as an assistant. Im also hiring a GM. One who overseeing roster construction with the HC and helps coordinate with NIL. You are starting to see this in football at the football powers. Michigan just got a guy from the Bears to do this for them. The players are now getting paid it’s a professional endeavor. Time to have the structure in place to treat your main program as such.
  19. Feathery

    Fire Coach Woodson

    Well didn’t Mgbako just talk to the staff like 2 weeks ago about returning next year? I just think the front court has talent and our guards are lacking and have been for a long time. Any coach we hire is going to struggle until the guard talent is upgraded. It’s a guards game and we are currently playing the inverse and have since Archie. edit: I also think Malik is a undersized 5 for the modern game. I want to get away from the 2 big lineup badly. So if Reneau wants to leave, bye. Need to get high quality guards and build around that. Not what we’ve been doing since Crean was fired.
  20. Feathery

    Fire Coach Woodson

    I think the roster has good individual talent but when put together as a team the pieces don’t fit. And that roster construction is the reason the team struggles. Woodson is a NBA guy and will play his individual talent. Notice when Reneau was on the bench the floor spacing was better and Ware was stellar. Guys made 3’s as well but our starting SG went 0-4. The game is a blowout with a SG that can shoot better and a PG upgrade. With or without Woody next year the roster construction needs fixed. Even if it means playing small ball for 1 season. Not ideal to play small but it would work well on offense and be a tourney team. PG - Portal (athletic/be able to shoot) SG - Portal (athletic/be able to shoot) Wing/SF - McNeeley Wing/PF - Mgbako C - Reneau (or get a Portal shot blocker)
  21. Feathery

    Fire Coach Woodson

    Who is C?
  22. Feathery

    Fire Coach Woodson

    It is true they have the money. Now will they reallocate the funds is a different question. But the money is definitely there. It’s why we all had to get Peacock and the rest of the streaming options to watch big ten games. IU got a massive pay raise.
  23. Feathery

    Fire Coach Woodson

    The athletic department got about a $30 million raise with the new TV deal that started this year. They got a donor to pay for the football buyout. So Dolson has the money, regardless of any donors, without taking away from any funds he had at his disposal in any previous year. Money for buyouts is not an issue. Money for NIL could be a factor but not for buyouts. It’s going to be about politicking to fire a guy and then still get them to donate to NIL. But I believe Dolson has the capability to bridge that political gap and win over a donor or 2.
  24. Feathery

    Fire Coach Woodson

    IU gets about $100 mil for just their new tv deal. That’s a massive increase that can cover any buyout for Woodson if the school chooses. Dolson doesn’t need booster money for a buyout. He does need it for NIL though.
  25. Feathery

    Fire Coach Woodson

    Archie’s defense gives up 3’s. We saw it for years. At the midmajor level you can dominate in that way. Get to the power 5 level and that defense becomes flawed badly bc the shooting and overall talent is greater. Not saying the pack line is a gimmick but I do believe the game has passed it by.
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