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Analysis: What non-conference IU Basketball rivalry would you like to see?


IndyHutch
  • There continues to be talk that Indiana and Louisville may be entering into an annual non-conference series, possibly beginning as early as this season. But if you could have the Hoosiers face any college basketball team in an annual series, what school or schools would be at the top of your list? Here's my take.

We’re probably still about a month away from Indiana releasing its complete 2015-16 basketball schedule.

That usually comes out some time in August. Once in a while it will move into September.

But here’s my question: If you could have one dream opponent that Indiana was able to lock into a home-and-home series with either for a two-year, three-year or four-year deal, what school would you like that to be?

Some will automatically say Kentucky and there’s nothing wrong with that if you’re looking at a dream scenario. But unless there’s a major philosophical change there I just don’t see that happening any time soon.

The reality there, however, is that IU-Kentucky could never get old. To those of us who experienced “The Border War” for countless years, I think the general consensus was that IU-UK was good for both programs and it’s good for college basketball.

Lately though the shift when talking about IU playing a school from the state to the south has been Louisville.

Back in February, Louisville coach Rick Pitino said on his weekly radio show that he and IU coach Tom Crean had been talking about starting up an annual rivalry game. Pitino said the negotiations at that point had IU and Louisville playing one season in Bloomington, one in Louisville and one in Indianapolis at a neutral site on a three-year rotation.

At the time, Pitino had said the schools were talking about having that first game as early as this upcoming season in Indianapolis.

"We are negotiating to play Indiana next year in Lucas Oil Stadium, where we split 35,000 tickets each," Pitino said on his February radio show. "If we can't get Lucas Oil on the date, we'll go to (Bankers Life Fieldhouse) and split 10,500 tickets or whatever. It'll be half going around behind our bench and half at mid-section, going around their bench."

Anyone who remembers the old neutral site matchups with Kentucky at Freedom Hall or in Indy where the court was split right down the middle will embrace that concept. It was actually a really cool idea especially when you had two rabid fan bases basically split right down the middle.

As far as I know nothing new has been discussed on that front, at least not publicly, but again this would be something we probably wouldn’t hear about again until the schedule is set in stone and released in the next month or so.

And so maybe Louisville turns out to be that non-conference annual rivalry that fills the void.

But are there any other programs that you would like to see Indiana play on an annual basis? If something gets done with Louisville, for example, I’m not sure other similar contracts would be set up as well given IU’s other set agreements (ACC/Big Ten Challenge, Crossroads Classic, Gavitt Tipoff Games) but you never know.

Myself, I would like to see Indiana and UCLA set up a series. Especially as long as Steve Alford is the Bruins coach. I just think a rivalry like that one would bring instant intrigue as well as pitting two basketball rich programs against each other.

How about IU-Kansas? There’s already a chance the two schools will meet this year in Maui and next year in Pearl Harbor. But maybe a few years down the road the schools could meet in an annual series.

Even though it wouldn’t be a big series on a national scale, I would still like to see another series along the lines of the Crossroads Classic that would set it in stone that IU would play a select state school or two every year. Perhaps you get on a rotation where every year you play two games against a pool of Indiana State, Ball State, Evansville and IUPUI. Maybe IPFW and Valparaiso get in the mix, too. I’m just a believer that games like that are good for basketball in general. It just promotes that in-state excitement a little bit more.

I’m sure there are other obvious rivalries, too. Are there any other rivalries that you would like to see come about involving Indiana basketball?

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Indiana-Louisville only beacuse it means a lot for me since i'm surrounded by obnoxious Louisville fans.

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I think the point of big out of conference games is two fold... To raise your programs profile by getting a nationally televised game, and for recruiting purposes. Given this staffs fondness for the DMV area, a school around there may make sense though we do have Maryland in conference. I like the idea of UCLA too. Maybe UVa

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I like the Indiana-Kansas idea.  

I would like to see them go with Marquette, though, because then it would be a closer game that I could go see in person.

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I think Xavier would be a good one.

Not high profile, but let's face it, they've been a lot more successful than us recently.

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Kansas is a good choice, although I'd rather see them as an in-conference opponent soon :)

I think UNC would be an outstanding choice. Two state schools that have a similar academic and athletic profile.

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If we can't have Kentucky, Louisville is next best option (Kansas third)

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Throw out pUKe because of Calipari's hissy fit so I think either Louisville or Kansas would be ideal.   Perennial contenders and proximity of the schools.  I'm not big on UCLA even with Alford as the coach; I'd opt for Arizona over UCLA if we're interested in a Pac-12 rivalry. 

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How about Wichita State? If we think about it, Kansas has no in state rival they want to acknowledge . If we play Wichita State we legitimize them and Kansas would have waste some more resources to stay ahead of the game.

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Great article Terry! I will try and stay away from the norm and go with another team that isn't being tossed around. How about Gonzaga or Texas? It can't be Notre Dame (my first choice because of in-state), and nothing from the ACC. Gonzaga is always looking for tough non-conference foes and they are on the west coast. Texas has a fresh new vibe and are always tough. Just something different. Always liked playing UCONN as well.

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I would love a series with Duke. Love the intrigue of that matchup this year, and it could be special for years to come. Think about it. 5 national championships each, consistent great players, the two greatest venues in the sport, and two of the greatest coaches ever. (Okay well maybe it's just the one but you get the idea)

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Great article Terry! I will try and stay away from the norm and go with another team that isn't being tossed around. How about Gonzaga or Texas? It can't be Notre Dame (my first choice because of in-state), and nothing from the ACC. Gonzaga is always looking for tough non-conference foes and they are on the west coast. Texas has a fresh new vibe and are always tough. Just something different. Always liked playing UCONN as well.


I agree Texas would be really cool. UConn at MSG would be spectacular. UConn always fills up MSG and there are a lot of IU alum in the NYC area.

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I like the Indiana-Kansas idea.  

I would like to see them go with Marquette, though, because then it would be a closer game that I could go see in person.

 

You really think Crean would go back to Marquette? I don't know. I just don't see it. Probably should wait until Luke Fischer is gone.

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I think Xavier would be a good one.

Not high profile, but let's face it, they've been a lot more successful than us recently.

 

I think Xavier would be a good one. I'm not sure if you would need to do a long term rivalry kind of series but I think playing them from time to time would be good for both programs.

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Kansas is a good choice, although I'd rather see them as an in-conference opponent soon :)

I think UNC would be an outstanding choice. Two state schools that have a similar academic and athletic profile.

 

The think with UNC is I wonder if the ACC/Big Ten Challenge stops them from doing that because of the possibility of playing them twice in a non conference season.

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Throw out pUKe because of Calipari's hissy fit so I think either Louisville or Kansas would be ideal.   Perennial contenders and proximity of the schools.  I'm not big on UCLA even with Alford as the coach; I'd opt for Arizona over UCLA if we're interested in a Pac-12 rivalry. 

 

Why Arizona over UCLA? I mean, I think Arizona would be a good choice, too, or even someone like Oregon or Washington, but why not UCLA? I think it's still a quality enough of an opponent.

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Great article Terry! I will try and stay away from the norm and go with another team that isn't being tossed around. How about Gonzaga or Texas? It can't be Notre Dame (my first choice because of in-state), and nothing from the ACC. Gonzaga is always looking for tough non-conference foes and they are on the west coast. Texas has a fresh new vibe and are always tough. Just something different. Always liked playing UCONN as well.

 

That's funny that you mention Gonzaga because when I was writing the article I was thinking about the Zags. But I thought, I don't want to list too many schools because I wanted people to have a chance to give their ideas. But I think Gonzaga would be a really good one.

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Indiana- St. John's

 

Interesting. Why St. John's? Just curious if there was a compelling reason there. How about Villanova?

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Why Arizona over UCLA? I mean, I think Arizona would be a good choice, too, or even someone like Oregon or Washington, but why not UCLA? I think it's still a quality enough of an opponent.

 

Brutally honest - I'm not a Steve Alford fan even though he's a native son and was a tremendous player for us.  Read too many negative things about him after his departures at Iowa and New Mexico and personally I just don't have a high regard for him as an individual.   [As an interesting aside, I won the game ball the night he played his last basketball game in my hometown's gym.  My wife had to go get it because I was on crutches recovering from knee surgery.  And yes, I still have that ball on a bookcase shelf.]

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I'm pretty sure everyone on this board would like to see us have annual meetings scheduled with Kentucky, Myself included. Louisville is another great game that I'd love to watch for years to come, but I'd also like to see Duke on our schedule. I know we're playing them this year in the Big Ten - ACC challenge, but I'd like to see a home and home a neutral games set up.

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