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It's funny to hear fans want Holtman but if you talk to Holtman he didn't want the job because of those same fans. He didn't want a job where the fans are always looking for the next coach.

Just saw on Forrester's IG that he is transferring to Temple.

Archie has basically the same contract as Holtmann. IU didn't cheap out on Archie Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Rabby is gonna make an excellent center. His post moves are unparalleled. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

I would bank the rest of the 19 scholarships and offer Leal and Galloway right away. Just me though.

Good fit for him and closer to home.

Holtmann went from 25-9 and 15-3 in conference his first year to 20-15 and 8-12 his second year. If that happened to him here people would be talking about how the sky is falling and he couldn't get it done with his own players. The grass isn't always greener on the other side...

IU has an in-home visit scheduled with Leal for monday night.

Correct... Thad was in bad health. It's not that the team was garbage.

To be fair Holtman also went to the tourney his first two years, as opposed to our zero, and our “green grass side” has gone from saying Archie would get us in the tourney right away to “Crean guys suck”, “it takes three years to learn the defense”, “Coach K went 0-1,000,000 when he started” etc. I hope Archie makes things happen but so far I think HR would say Holtman has over achieved while Archie has underachieved.

The largest component of our issues with 3s was we didn’t have the right people shooting our 3s.

Absolutely. While we did miss a ton of wide open 3s this year. I think Archie needs to improve as well. He is still an extremely young coach who needs to keep progressing himself.

Virginia kid wants to stay close to home where his family can watch him play. Can't be upset about that. Archie will be fine. I'm ready to get things started with the guys we've got.

If I'm Archie I'm not wasting time on the 19 guys any longer. I don't believe LQ or TW are realistic options at this point. I'm banking those scholarships getting Leal and Galloway, then adding a couple of higher recruits if possible.

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Are you talking just this recruiting cycle or both of his recruiting cycle? This cycle has been tough in that department so far although they did land their top target (1a or 1b). Last cycle was a home run in recruits they wanted. They targeted Race early and often and then convinced him to reclassify. They viewed 2 pgs that they at least needed to get one (Garland and Rob) and they landed Rob. Hunter was targeted early and often and IU stole him from Ohio St and Michigan. He landed his top target of the class in Romeo. This cycle he target Francis and Carton as his top guard and missed on both. First go around Harris, Newman, Mann, Franklin and couple others were all bunched into the same group after they missed on carton and they landed Franklin an in-state kid that has improved each year. Not the top target but definitely not a bottom of the barrel recruit. I totally agree this cycle hasn’t gone as planned but the first year they got who they wanted unfortunately the results didn’t show that. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

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I agree. I do think it is fair to suggest that the mid season swoon seems to have stalled that year 1 momentum. I have more confidence that Archie can coach better than Crean and it might be that we have to build a winner before we start to hit with kids like we did in year 1. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Ah gotcha. I’m going to try to reclassify everyone from here on out until we can fill a need this year. Ha. Thanks for the info Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

Boom!!!! Dunham ties it up at 3 with a 2run bomb!!

Working the offense to get better looks from 3 would help too. Hopefully Archie spends time reworking the offense this summer like he's done with the defense.

I know we need a shooter in the worst way and losing Harris doesn't help, but I can't understand the argument that we NEED more talent to win. Everyone coming back and our recruiting class coming in is a 4 or 5 star (according to 247) coming out of high school except Green, Durham, and Franklin. We have talent, just need development and togetherness. Watford and LQ would be great if it happens, but we really just need guys that are sold out for IU, can shoot the rock, and play nasty D. Sent from my SM-N960U1 using BtownBanners mobile app

Interesting to see what Jeremiah Francis does. He has been hurt but that’s twice he has been recruited over in his own class plus they have 3 more guards and are going after a grad transfer. Maybe he red shirts. FWIW he was Archie’s first guard offer in the 2019 class Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

I don’t see anyway around it. Archie has to have success next year. He will have a grand total of 4 players that aren’t his in the slightest. With at least 3 of them expected to be contributors to some degree. His other 7-9 players he recruited need to be able to produce 5 guys to field a solid rotation. No more excuses and no more 1-12 stretches End of story.

Romeo helped conduct the visit. That’d be difficult to neg. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app