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I believe it. Coaching iu is a pressure cooker some would probably like to avoid. Our fans are already getting set to lynch our new young coach 7 games into his second season. We demand success like very few other schools and have been denied for an insane amount of time. It is not for everyone Sent from my SM-G920V using BtownBanners mobile app

FSU ended the game on an 8-0 run. Purdue didn’t score a point the last 3:41 of the game. is it bad that makes me happy?

Al, Clifton, and Justin Smith are Crean recruits. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

I don’t understand why some are doubting Archie after less than 1.5 years at the helm. Did we think all of our bad habits would magically be fixed? It takes time to get players that play his way and to ‘unlearn’ old ways of playing that were not very productive. Expectation should be to make the tournament. This year. No more. I feel confident we will achieve that goal.

Nothing like keyboard coaches to pinpoint exactly what’s wrong with the team and precisely how to fix it and ready to get rid of a coach they were praising a few months ago on bringing in this class. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

Hoosiers win 87-73 and improve to 6-0! We travel to UCLA on Sunday. Patberg - 30 pts (11-11 ft), 4 asts, 4stls Penn - 25 pts Wise - 12 pts, 5 rebs, 2 blks, 2 stls

Let's say that coach has a plan for developing this team. If he doesn't we have the wrong coach, but I'll not argue that at this point. He had players returning and a good recruiting class coming in, so it was expected that we would have a better product on the floor than we did last year. Then the nightmare begins with injuries and our bench disappears into the training room. Suddenly the coach's hands are tied and the "plan" goes out the window. He is forced to play players too many minutes and in some cases in positions that they were never intended to play. The result is lackluster performances against inferior teams and a blowout defeat to a very good team that simply outclassed us. Of more importance is team chemistry and roles have been perverted by bad breaks injury wise. So the big questions is how do we get this train-wreck back on the rails? I'm sure everyone has an opinion because that is part of the fun in being a Hoosier fan. The only opinion that matters is Archie's but I'm not going to let that stop me from chiming in. I think we only have two guaranteed starters on this team - Morgan and Langford, and Morgan is playing out of position. Smith has earned some pine time and I'd move Morgan to the 4 which is probably his natural position. Smith can be an energy guy off the bench until he can prove that he is able to handle the ball, make good decisions, pound the boards and finish in traffic. Ultimately Davis is going to be the stating center. I don't care how big Fitzner is, he is not going to play with his back to the basket. He is an instant offense guy that can come off the bench and pop some 3s. Maybe he can grab a few rebounds but don't expect an all around player. That he isn't. Since we have some big guards we can probably get by with playing only two bigs. I'd play Durham and Langford on the wings. Al has improved greatly this year. He can play defense and can handle the ball if needed. He has also demonstrated an improved offensive game this year. I think it is significant that Romeo is our second leading rebounder. However, he is not a shooter. He is a slasher and he is having trouble doing that as his way to the basket is blocked by his teammates. Get out of his way! Phinisee is also a slasher that has demonstrated the ability to get by his man so I'd go with him at the point. Unless his offense continues to develop McRoberts is a spot starter in place of Durham and instant defense and energy off the bench. Green has ability but he consistently STOPS the offense with his dribbling and selfish play. Anderson isn't ready yet for big time minutes. I have no idea what to do with Forrester and Moore. If Archie couldn't find minutes for them when we were shorthanded I don't know if they are going to help with injured players coming back. Hunter is a wash this year. By the time he gets back - if he gets back - roles will have been established. The wild card is Thompson. I really want to see this kid play but I have seen so little of him I don't know what I would do with him. He could be a Smith without the warts. He could be a bench buddy with Forrester and Moore. I suspect he is a player, especially after a year of practice, but I just don't know. So there you go. I'd start Davis, Morgan, Durham, Langford, and Phinisee. McRoberts, Green, Smith, Fitzner are my first four off the bench - depending on need at the time. I'm praying that Thompson will come back and make me change my thinking. Same for Hunter.

Justin Smith has been abysmal. Free Throws for him are a wild adventure. Justin Smith is worse this year than Bad Troy Williams and couldn’t hold a candle to Good Troy Williams. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

A little fact checking would help you. Do you know where Coach K came from before Duke? Many other examples.

You come to a fan message board you better expect all the second guessing thats possible.

Patberg is going to be an All-B1G no doubt and possibly All-American by next year. People forget she was a McD's AA out of high school. Her dad was my freshman coach and it's easy to understand why she's such a hungry competitor. Never played for a tougher coach...and it shows in Ali and benefits us BIG time. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners

Patberg with a career high 22 and counting.

IU 50-43 @ half. Penn - 18 pts, 3 rebs, 2 asts Patberg - 17 pts, 3 stls, 2 asts Wise - 8 pts, 2 asts Royster - 5 pts Yeaney - 2 pts, 2 rebs, 4 asts

IU 33-28 end of Q1. Penn leads with 12, Patberg 11, Wise/Royster 5 each. Solid start: 13-17 fg, 5-6 3fg, only 2 turnovers

He’s been losing the majority of those too. Lol Now let’s have pure comedy and put “Phone book” Davis on the jump. I kid guys. Don’t all come at me at once now. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app

Same starters: Patberg, Yeaney, Penn, Wise and Royster. Let's go to work girls!

You do not let a guy playing that badly and with that little effort keep playing because his feelings will be hurt if you bench him.

Archie has some talent. We're still thin to nonexistent down low and we have unreliable point play due to our options being a freshman and Green. Our best shooters are freshmen and there are some injuries still. Anyone who expected a win last night is an idiot. Anyone calling for Archie's head is an even bigger clown. We weren't a good team by any measure last season other than where we finished in the conference standings due to a favorable schedule and weak Big Ten. We added some pieces to what was at best a mediocre lineup and they unraveled early in a hostile environment against one of the best teams in the country. It was a game few if any teams would have won this early in the season. Archie isn't just amassing talent, he's implementing a system. A system that by his own admission will take several years for a team to fully get the hang of. A November game at Duke with freshmen guards isn't the time to judge it.

The ego of many are bruised severely...specifically Justin Smith.

I have a feeling since McRoberts made his way back last night, he will start against Northwestern and Al will stay in the starting lineup, leaving Justin on the bench to start. I could see Rob, Al, Romeo, Zach, and Juwan.

Tim Priller is a God, bite your tongue Sent from my LG-K371 using BtownBanners mobile app

Everybody thought Billy Gillespie was the next young stud coach. Yikes. Not giving up. But citing the things that don’t look good is just common sense. Holtmann got it done in year 1. Not unfair to wonder.

Calipari wanted the IU job before he went to Kentucky. The job was open twice when he was at Memphis, we never pursued him. I seem to remember hearing that Izzo was interested at one time too, but not sure how accurate that is. Yes, the Indiana name still registers.

Sorry, but I don't sign up to that thought at all.