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Rapid Reaction IU vs Washington


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  • We went into MSG, and dominated unlike many thought we could.

We went into MSG, and dominated unlike many thought we could. That score showed an 18 point victory, but it felt much bigger. Indiana was in complete control throughout. The kids were on display for the world to see. Troy had the game of his young college life at MSG. The kids dictated the pace, controlled the boards, and hit their FTs. End result is we all go to bed happy Hoosiers. Jeremy did not have a good game, but as good of a game as Noah Vonleh had, his double-double streak ended one rebound shy.

Our current version of the Hurryin Hoosiers out-rebounded the Huskies 47-27. You read that correctly. That was as dominant as we will be all year on the glass. With 8 minutes to go, Noah heard the collective voice of Hoosier fans urging for that last rebound. It wasn't meant to be tonight. As a team we were all over the glass. Also encouraging was how we performed at the line. As a team we went 31-36. If we can stay in that 75% range with how much we get to the line, we will be very tough to beat. One wrinkle of Tom Crean's offense we hadn't seen as much is the backcuts. They were there all game and we took advantage of a defense who over-rotated all night.

How about those kids, huh? Troy Williams was a beast tonight with 22 points and 6 boards. Yogi chipped in his normal 20 points, but had 7 assists in this one. Noah added 18 points and 9 lonely boards. Will was solid with 16 points / 4 boards / 3 assists. On the flip side, Jeremy was exceptionally bad in the first half. He had half of the team's turnovers in the half. It was a night to forget as well for Hanner. Stan and Devin offered solid minutes off the bench. Luke and Evan were fairly solid as well. Back to Jeremy and Hanner though. Yes they had rough games. That doesn't mean they can't play.

We are a young team, and hopefully everyone understands the importance of depth. When a kid has a bad game, it doesn't mean they should get kicked off the team or benched. We will very possibly need that kid to carry us in some way the next game. Lets just hope these kids have shorter memory than some of us.

Great game in a tough environment for a young group of kids. It could have been intimidating, but these kids came out hot, and never really let up. They had an intensity that was easy to get behind. As with most games we will witness this year, there were good things, as well as bad. They are very young. They are also very good. We get a real quality measuring stick up next. Hoo's up for UConn?

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Great write up as always.  Really looking forward to seeing what this team can do against #18 UConn tomorrow night!

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Great write up as always.  Really looking forward to seeing what this team can do against #18 UConn tomorrow night!

 

Different kind of speed for sure.  I think if we can crash the boards like we did tonight, we have a chance.  That team likes to get up and down like we do.  I like our length, but our youth will go against us when up against a team like UConn on a neutral court.  That LIU-Brooklyn "pressure" game will help us in this game more than anyone will ever realize.  You know, I like how we looked and our depth.  When playing on back to back nights, depth helps.  It will be close for sure, but I honestly like us.  I see it as a coin flip game really if we can neutralize their shooting.  We can't keep up with them when they are hitting like they are capable of.  We just don't have the shooters.  If we make it an up and down "athletic" game, I like us. 

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Great Article.

It amazed me how fast people on here turned on Hollowell. It's rather pathetic to be honest. I know he played bad but there were people talking about him transferring. Some were the same fans that praised him after our first game. Don't be those kind of fans. Either support him or don't but don't tuck tail and turn on the kid for one really bad game. That's stuff I'd expect from UK or PU fans not the Hoosier faithful.

Sorry for the rant.


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Hollowell's play has been less than impressive, but I agree 100%. No reason people should want him to leave the team. Something's not clicking upstairs for the kid, because he's got all the potential and talent in the world but just seems a little lost.

Hollowell is one of the most versatile, talented guys on the team, and if Crean can get half the potential out, Hollowell can be a dangerous, valuable player.


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I don't like guys bashing the kids at all. I might say something like he's struggling, etc. but I'm not going to scream at the computer that he's a worthless sob and should never see the floor again kind of stuff. That's just childish and uncalled for in my opinion.

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I feel like we are going back to the VJIII days with the bashing Hollowell gets. Everyone just needs to chill and relax. At the end if the day, coach Crean will decide who plays and if he doesn't think Hollowell is capable, he won't play.

That being said, he is playing so I would put faith in our coach that he sees something in JH that some of our fans don't. The kid has immense talent and just needs to find his role. The same people bashing him today were applauding his 18 point effort a few nights ago.

I'm sorry Jeremy, but you've been targeted as the next Verdell. Maybe he can give you some pointers!


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Yeah, I am cool with talking about a kid's game.  But, some of the comments were over the top.  One said he was worthless.  People called that poster out on that, and he told them he was talking about his play on the court not to get it twisted.  We are on the internet on a platform that is easy to find.  How would you feel as a 19/20 yr old to google yourself and find people saying you are worthless?  Whether or not you meant it that way, you just need to elaborate where a kid can do better or where he is struggling and not be so manic with every play.  These are people.  No, these are kids we are talking about.  Not everything is lollypops, but please be considerate of these kids. 

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Wishing JH would settle for mid range jumpers more. Let they scoring come to him.  Thinking he will become more at ease soon, just going to have to get some time in.

 

Nice write up, look forward to them.

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I don't like guys bashing the kids at all. I might say something like he's struggling, etc. but I'm not going to scream at the computer that he's a worthless sob and should never see the floor again kind of stuff. That's just childish and uncalled for in my opinion.

 

 

 

I want to add to the above. The constant screaming makes game threads at times unbearable to me. I could put certain posters on ignore but I have a rule about that, never done it, never will. I just try to ignore and/or avoid them manually. 

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We'll have to get our mods all on the same page in future game threads. Some posts are becoming borderline. We'll attempt to fix it!


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Yeah, I am cool with talking about a kid's game.  But, some of the comments were over the top.  One said he was worthless.  People called that poster out on that, and he told them he was talking about his play on the court not to get it twisted.  We are on the internet on a platform that is easy to find.  How would you feel as a 19/20 yr old to google yourself and find people saying you are worthless?  Whether or not you meant it that way, you just need to elaborate where a kid can do better or where he is struggling and not be so manic with every play.  These are people.  No, these are kids we are talking about.  Not everything is lollypops, but please be considerate of these kids. 

An even more appropriate way of putting this would be for any of us to ask ourselves, how we'd like it if our son had to read such rubbish? We'd be mad as hell and we'd be hurting for our son, who undoubtedly would be upset too. Most of us here are no longer in that age range, as most of us are now adults with children.

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I completely agree with this.  I understand the game is an emotional time to comment for some.  But, if you can't control your thoughts to your finger tips before typing, then you need to stop commenting during games.  We are not the thought police, but there comes a time where we are going to have to step in.  I am hopeful the game tonight will be different, but doubt it.  It will be a tougher, closer game.  The manic posts are going to have to stop.  The bashing of the players is going to have to stop.  Talk of play on the court is what we are here for.  We have a great group here, and I hope to keep it that way. 

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Jeremy struggled no doubt about that.  That said I was thrilled when we got him and I still like him, the kid has real talent and is smooth.  He missed some easy shots and that he needs to start converting.  I'd also like to see him stop driving straight into the defender like he does, he gets called for so many charges that way, utilize a Euro-step or a pull up or something.

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MDN nailed it. I'll throw out an example:

Bad Post: "Player X sucks, why the hell are they still playing?"


Good Post: "Player X is struggling and looks lost tonight, jumper isn't falling and seems to be pressing things. Wonder if Crean will make a move soon"


One is bashing, one is commenting on THAT GAME. Not the greatest example, but it's a HUGE difference.


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Washington's coach in the post game interview...."They were like Dobermans on the boards, crashing the boards"....Damn, you gotta love hearing this come out of the mouth of an opposing coach!  :biggrin:

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All in all i thought that as a team the hoosiers looked solid against a very formidable opponent from the pac 12 .
Remember it was a first away from bloomington for the freshmen who i thought looked very composed on a big stage such as MSG!

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How about we just tell all the players they won and they all get the MVP because they tried hard or they have potential or some day they might just help the team. This isn't bitty ball ladies, and I'm nauseated by the language police, and the folks helping to reframe to the positive. This political correctness shrouded in happy happy joy joy is symptomatic of the wussification of our culture. No thanks, I'm a Hoosier trained up under the master instruction of Robert Montgomery Knight. I think I'll just go ahead and say what I think!


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How about we just tell all the players they won and they all get the MVP because they tried hard or they have potential or some day they might just help the team. This isn't bitty ball ladies, and I'm nauseated by the language police, and the folks helping to reframe to the positive. This political correctness shrouded in happy happy joy joy is symptomatic of the wussification of our culture. No thanks, I'm a Hoosier trained up under the master instruction of Robert Montgomery Knight. I think I'll just go ahead and say what I think!


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Gee, I wonder which site you came from.  

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